Ode to a Fundamentalist - Ryan Messano

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I was very amused with Ryan's rather pathetic attempt to stereotype me (and all leftists) recently and would like to have replied sooner. Unfortunately I have been away. But this ditty came to mind and was extracted from Ryan's recent rantings. I think I've got him nailed down far better than he ever got me.


This was fun! What do you think?


OK - this is my ode to Ryan :-


Ode to a Fundamentalist - Ryan Messano


If Ryan had a woman she’d not be allowed to think

He’d keep her shackled to the kitchen sink.

When not popping babies she’d clean up the house

Then sit looking pretty as still as a mouse.

She’d have to obey his every whim

For as is obvious she’s not really equal to him.


And as for the faggots and those perverted by porn

He’d have them rounded up to be shot at dawn.

The wanking police would be knocking at your door

Checking for spills so they could give you what for.


Those that were guilty of teaching sex ed

Would be tortured and maimed until better off dead.

And as for the commies, those who crave equality

Death is too good for you, them and me.


And as for the stoners - those that get out of their head

There’s another group who’d be better off dead.

So round them up with the queers, sluts and wogs

Kick ‘em and lash them

They’re worse than stray dogs.


When Ryan was all through and had cleaned up the perverse,

Using archaic texts in Arabic verse,

He’d proclaim the world free of perversion and sin -

Herald a new age and usher it in.


Ryan would be King of the whole damned world

And all nature would die as his plans unfurled;

For the scientists all lie - there’s no extinction rate

And as for the climate - that’s going just great!


Ryan knows that god wrote the words from his realm up in space

And gave them to us cos we’re such a disgrace.

So stone all the women and bash out baby brains,

Wage war on the infidel who are obviously insane.

They believe the wrong words from the wrong book

So bomb them to bits and hang them from hooks.


But the new age is the past in Ryan’s universe

Where superstition rules with lessons so terse.

Rules that were written thousands of years gone

Now applied to the letter to right every wrong.

In Ryan’s universe it’s all white and black

You do as you’re told and don’t dare answer back.


For in the new age we’ll all be white male

With a society like that you just cannot fail!

No room for inferiors or the depraved

They’ll all be wiped out or rightly enslaved.

They’ll be no point in arguing - no ifs and no buts

But fortunately ….. we all see …….. that Ryan is just nuts!!


Opher 17.6.2018


Leroy Added Jun 27, 2018 - 7:41am
You have made the big time, Ryan!  Congratulations.
opher goodwin Added Jun 27, 2018 - 8:28am
Yeah - well done Ryan!!  Cheers Leroy!
opher goodwin Added Jun 27, 2018 - 8:50am
So where did this article disappear?? I've looked right down the lists and it's gone!
Has Ryan stolen it?
opher goodwin Added Jun 27, 2018 - 10:04am
Ooops!! It's back!
Jeff Michka Added Jun 27, 2018 - 4:44pm
It's still here, and congrats on keeping Messano here by "honoring" him with an article.  Ryan is one of those that believe there's no such thing as bad press...
opher goodwin Added Jun 27, 2018 - 6:16pm
Jeff - honoring is a strange word to use for one such as him! Somehow we have to describe what the right is really about. I just watched the Handmaid's Tale - that sums up the totalitarian bullying that they represent.
Leroy Added Jun 27, 2018 - 6:48pm
"Ryan is one of those that believe there's no such thing as bad press..."
I've often said that a bad reputation is better than none at all.
Flying Junior Added Jun 27, 2018 - 7:00pm
Comedic catharsis.
James Travil Added Jun 27, 2018 - 7:05pm
The older movie The Handmaid's Tale? Or the current Hulu series of the same name? I've never seen the former, but am watching the latter, although I'm a few episodes behind. In any case that about sums up lying Ryan's sick and hypocritical world. 
EXPAT Added Jun 27, 2018 - 7:16pm
Your obsession with Ryan is almost a bro mance. Your love hate relationship has you writing ditties to your lover.
Why isn't Ryan allowed to voice his thoughts on WB, as any other delusional sot is allowed?
Jeff Michka Added Jun 27, 2018 - 7:17pm
Ryan is nothing more than a rightwing bully.  He calls himself an alpha male, but question both parts fthat.  Handmai'ds
Jeff Michka Added Jun 27, 2018 - 7:22pm
ooops….Handmaid's Tale is more geared to rightist hysteria.  Ask Tamara Wilbwhite.  But fear not, rightists!!!  The Orange Il Duce is gonna pick another fascist to the Supreme's….Just think, criminalizing abortion, nternments, deportations....You know "the Other" getting hurt.  And that's what Trumpists and rightists live for....hurting other people that aren't human, like they think they are.
EXPAT Added Jun 27, 2018 - 9:16pm
Jeff Michka.
I see no difference between you and Ryan. You are left handed and he is right handed, but both hands are balled in a fist!
Neither hand can wear the other glove, and both hands wipe their ass and smell like shit!
EXPAT Added Jun 27, 2018 - 9:19pm
I suppose I will have to read this Handmaids Tale. But I do so with trepidation, based on those who promote it.
EXPAT Added Jun 27, 2018 - 9:21pm
I should have known it was a TV series.
wsucram15 Added Jun 27, 2018 - 9:32pm
Opher..dont do this, seriously. you are actually doing exactly what he wants. I swear.
James Travil Added Jun 27, 2018 - 9:43pm
Actually Expat The Handmaid's Tale is based on a book. 
Jeff Michka Added Jun 27, 2018 - 9:53pm
Ah, It's ASSHAT once again.  He can't go "home,' but talks about the adault Disneyland he ran off to, and has NO real stake in anything going on in this country.  He talks big, complains about people, but is a world-class asshole to many here.  Yeah, I'm sooooo terrible!  LOL You are the very backend of the horse you rode in on, ASSHAT.   James was right.  You can read, can't you?
wsucram15 Added Jun 27, 2018 - 10:03pm
Nobody's Sweetheart Added Jun 27, 2018 - 10:28pm
Too funny! I thought about writing another polemic on Europeans in general and Stone-Head in particular, but then thought, "Why the fuck should I give this failure-on-every-continent-except-Antarctica any more publicity?" Live and let die, I say! Ryan is Ryan, Opher is Opher, Stone-Head is Stone-Head. Next topic! LOL
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jun 27, 2018 - 11:51pm
The funniest thing about this "Ode" is that it illustrates how ridiculous the author is for first being so troubled by Ryan and second, the effort he had to put into being so troubled. 
Ryan 1
HRH Head Teacher (Opher) 0
James Travil Added Jun 27, 2018 - 11:54pm
"Opher..dont do this, seriously. you are actually doing exactly what he wants. I swear."
Too late, it's already done. And you shouldn't swear. 
Nobody's Sweetheart Added Jun 28, 2018 - 12:04am
Captain Gilbert is the "net" judge on this one, lol!
Neil Lock Added Jun 28, 2018 - 5:06am
Opher: You missed the line about the five biographies of the Founders. And the one about watching seven conservative news outlets for at least two months. But despite those missing elements, I did enjoy a snigger or three.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 28, 2018 - 6:21am
That's what I call making PUB LOL. Ryan will surely like it. Attention seekers accept any attention they can get - positive or negative.
I prefer watching soccer at the moment.......
Ric Wells Added Jun 28, 2018 - 6:48am
Stone Deutschland ist kaput. 
opher goodwin Added Jun 28, 2018 - 7:54am
James - the current series. It isn't quite true to the book but it is interesting. I think it shows quite clearly the type of hypocritical dystopia that fanatics would create. Margaret Atwood is involved so it is quite true to form.
opher goodwin Added Jun 28, 2018 - 7:54am
FJ - exactly.
opher goodwin Added Jun 28, 2018 - 7:57am
Expat - no obsession. I was just amused by his silly juvenile arrogant stereotyping that was so wide of the mark and couldn't resist poking fun. Though the actual misogyny and hate is not really so funny.
opher goodwin Added Jun 28, 2018 - 7:58am
Jeanne - no really. It is not important.
opher goodwin Added Jun 28, 2018 - 8:00am
Expat - everyone should read Margaret Atwood. She is not only a great writer but has a clear vision of the outcomes of fundamentalist thinking. A very disturbing read.
opher goodwin Added Jun 28, 2018 - 8:02am
Jeffry - not troubled one bit and no trouble to write. I did it for my own amusement and enjoyed it. 
opher goodwin Added Jun 28, 2018 - 8:03am
Neil - I know I missed a few things out but it was just off the top of my head and I found it amusing. Glad you got it too.
opher goodwin Added Jun 28, 2018 - 8:04am
Stone/Jeanne - yes you are right - attention seekers like the publicity. But it was fun and he's such a dork it was easy.
opher goodwin Added Jun 28, 2018 - 8:05am
Ric/Stone - England tonight! Lots of fun to come!
Stone-Eater Added Jun 28, 2018 - 8:08am
Yep Deutschland ist kaputt. But I'm not German anyway LOL
Ric Wells Added Jun 28, 2018 - 8:14am
I know that but it was great that Korea knocked them out. Go Senegal.
opher goodwin Added Jun 28, 2018 - 8:17am
Ric/Stone - I thought it was great too. But Germany were not a major force. They looked laboured. Brazil showed patches and Argentina were poor. I think this could be anybody's!
Utpal Patel Added Jun 28, 2018 - 8:20am
Wouldn't you agree that leftists hold certain political beliefs and that your beliefs are most closely aligned with the left than the right?  If so, than I see nothing wrong with Ryan (anyone for that matter) calling you a leftist.  
Stone-Eater Added Jun 28, 2018 - 8:23am

Stone-Eater Added Jun 28, 2018 - 8:28am
The problem with what you call "leftists" ist that in their exaggerated effort to create "equality" for everybody they went way too far. Take PC and all that LGBTZUWNMLP.... shit. You cannot integrate an illiterate peasant from Sudan in a couple of months into a Western society. Help them develop their country within their own culture to be able to stay home. It's the only way.
BALANCE is the word. But that doesn't exist today anymore.
opher goodwin Added Jun 28, 2018 - 9:27am
Utpal - labelling is always daft. It's a lazy way of sticking a label on someone so that you don't have to engage with what they are saying. People are usually more complex than stereotyping allows. The way Ryan used his prejudice to extrapolate was laughable and a good example. It's not only daft; it's invariably wrong.
Bill H. Added Jun 28, 2018 - 10:54am
I see Ryan as a disturbed individual who has been not only isolated, but indoctrinated with beliefs that do not equate with today's society.
Not to say that all of his beliefs are wrong, but I suspect that he finds himself immensely frustrated and angry since he is virtually surrounded by what he considers "Heathen Sinners" and in comparison to his beliefs, "Ultra-Liberal Socialists".
After watching several videos of his performances in his local City Council meetings, I sense an immense level of frustration and anger within him, which is quite obvious based on the hate and slander he uses here on WB with those who he believes are the causes of all of his issues.
Yes, the Handmaid's Tale is a good but disturbing read that lately may have some truth to it.
wsucram15 Added Jun 28, 2018 - 11:33am
A while back I left a comment to  some people from the town he lived in at the time based on comments on some articles he had written.  They sent me an email..no kidding.  Its interesting to get the perspective of someone that has dealt with him, including a minister.
I heard a lot from them..but never once heard from them he was a bad guy.  Just the same assessment you gave above, one of them was kind of sad actually. Something about being so inside his own head that he cant see the truth in front of him or something like that.   It just made me think of how much life he was missing out on living that way. 
Also there are different types of Christians. He is from a sect of the Christian Church that follows the old testament, which is not as common as most.  Its very strict and most that stay within the church are very aggressive about their beliefs. 
But just the fact that I am talking about him on here will either please him to death or piss him off irrationally. IDK.. but you have to admit (chuckles) we dont talk about anyone else besides trump on here and now ryan.
Opher..you really need to delete this. omg.  lol
opher goodwin Added Jun 28, 2018 - 1:53pm
Bill - I agree with your analysis. What do you think made him that way?
opher goodwin Added Jun 28, 2018 - 1:54pm
Jeanne - nothing is deleted on my threads!
Fundamentalists are all wacky in the head. I think he's in the same camp as ISIS.
Bill H. Added Jun 28, 2018 - 3:00pm
Opher - I think Jeanne explained it well. I believe he led a life similar to what was seen on a TV show entitled "19 Kids and Counting", where the parents were very strict and everything revolved around the church.
He did admit out here once that they didn't have TV at home. I suspect that if he did date, it had to occur with a chaperone present, as was the case on the TV show.
Mustafa Kemal Added Jun 28, 2018 - 4:19pm
Opher, I really dont get the "fundamentalist" part.
What kind of fundamentalist are we talking about here?
The 5 biographies and 7 conservative news sites fundamentalists?
opher goodwin Added Jun 28, 2018 - 4:41pm
Bill - that is what it sounds like to me. He's so uptight he might just go pop.
opher goodwin Added Jun 28, 2018 - 4:42pm
Mustafa - no the religious extremism. Those that take every word literally.
Flying Junior Added Jun 29, 2018 - 3:44am
I'm thinking that maybe Ryan has left the building.
Dr. Rupert Green Added Jun 29, 2018 - 4:22am
"And as for the faggots and those perverted by porn"
 Was there not a righteous Republican minister who was preaching fire and brimstone to those described in quoth and it was found that was taking it in the arse along with drugs?  I have a great distrust of the RYANS who profess high moral derived from their religious practice. Pity the esophagus of the chicken.
opher goodwin Added Jun 29, 2018 - 5:21am
Dr Green - I think there have been many a one of them! It seems the rules only apply to others!
opher goodwin Added Jun 29, 2018 - 5:22am
Flying Junior - perhaps he was embarrassed by the exact caricature of himself and has crawled off to reform himself into a human being?
Bill H. Added Jun 29, 2018 - 11:11am
FJ - He's left several times prior, but always comes back eventually, even more angry and heated then before.
Or maybe he did "pop".
Stone-Eater Added Jun 29, 2018 - 2:33pm
Which building did you leave and didn't you find the way back ? LOL
Jeff Michka Added Jun 29, 2018 - 3:02pm
Ryan, at best, will only come back to WB  to try and siphon WB users to his website, or when he gets kicked off Facebook.  H e comes here to berate, cause trouble and sow chaos.  Why he thinks that will get WBers going, "I need to go to Ryan's website because he's made WB so chaotic, and "I love being ordered around by a rightwing extremist."
opher goodwin Added Jul 1, 2018 - 10:31am
Bill - I wish the POP was on video!!
opher goodwin Added Jul 1, 2018 - 10:32am
Stone - You're Left He's Right He's gone!
opher goodwin Added Jul 1, 2018 - 10:33am
Jeff - you mean he has followers?
Bill H. Added Jul 1, 2018 - 12:43pm
He's back, but apparently hasn't found this article yet!
Jeff Michka Added Jul 1, 2018 - 5:12pm
opher:  Those "followers" are the ones using the self-service gallows lining the sidewalk to the First Church of Ryan.  Here today, out of the way and dangling tomorrow.
opher goodwin Added Jul 1, 2018 - 5:52pm
Bill - I noticed that. His absurdity is attracting the nutters like moths around a candle. Let's hope they get their wings burnt.
opher goodwin Added Jul 1, 2018 - 5:53pm
Jeff - well I can see from the comments on his threads that he attracts in similar indoctrinated clowns.
Morgoth Added Jul 2, 2018 - 9:01pm
Well done!!!!  Bravo!!!!!  
WB’s resident scribe has done it again!!!!!
wsucram15 Added Jul 2, 2018 - 9:34pm
 I just had to delete graphics directed at JM...where are these people coming from?
Well Opher..I guess thats the way it is..
Jeff Michka Added Jul 3, 2018 - 1:46am
 Well, wsucram15, thanks, but she got through anyway.  These people whine, cry, and stamp their little feet, crying "We aren't racists"  saying what's true about them will drive them deeper into Trump's cult of the personality.  These people are out from underneath their rocks and are trying to pump themselves up because "We're Trumpists.  We're so tough you can't change our minds or stop us"...One of these stalwarts figures it's okay to call Maxin Waters a field nigger, and was crying because I was saying baaaaad things to her about her Trumpist lack of ideals and I'm crazy.  MAYBE, BUT GOOD, IF I'm crazy, at least I'm not a Trumpist lap dog.
opher goodwin Added Jul 3, 2018 - 3:48am
Cheers Jeff K.
opher goodwin Added Jul 3, 2018 - 3:49am
Jeanne - it was easy to parody. The scary thing is that the parody is real.
opher goodwin Added Jul 3, 2018 - 3:54am
Jeff - you are right - the evil numbskulls have crawled out from under their rocks. Unfortunately, because the current leadership endorses it, it is becoming normalised in people who would not normally support racism or other obnoxious behaviours - misogyny, callous behaviour and violence. Leadership sets the tone and this leader endorses nastiness. I was just watching a video where he was condoning police brutality and telling police that it was alright to rough up people during arrest. Unbelievable. 
Bill H. Added Jul 3, 2018 - 4:42pm
Jeanne - Looks like she came back and put them up again.
M.U. is a great example of the hate that Trump generates.
This is exactly what Trump craves and desires, and I suggest that those who are not Trumpies try to resist stooping to their level.
It is always one of the first duties of Dictators to divide their society in order to create a subservient base of supporters. Then it is downhill from there.
opher goodwin Added Jul 3, 2018 - 6:21pm
Bill - he has certainly built on that tribe that the Tea Party nutters started. What has happened to America? It seems to have gone nuts.
Ryan Messano Added Jul 4, 2018 - 1:48am
Interesting article,  
LeRoy nailed it.
Its funny to be called a nutter by leftists.  Hilarious.
I always loved Brer Rabbit, as he laughed at Brer Fox and Brer Bear and their antics.  I feel like him now.  
It was a real side splitter, Opher.  It’s good to see I live rent free in some people’s heads.  It’s better than the leftist garbage the media and schools feed you, so I must be doing something right.
Its really sad how you libertine men make it into a major crime for a woman to stay home, love her husband, and have babies.  Because of you libertines and lechers, women whose beauty has faded with age, are now old, bitter, lonely, and miserable.  Liberal women don’t age well.  They believed the stupid liberal fairytales that having children was such a burden, and now it’s too late.  
Also, you slanderously lie, which is to be expected.  I never advocated for the death penalty for homosexuals, and never used the f word to describe them either.  Porn use punishable by death is a horrid slander.  Banning porn and punishing it with the death penalty are two different things.
What a terrible imagination you have, Opher.  Punishing sex Ed with torture is another mangling if what I said.  Butchering my words seems to be an art form you are fond of and quite adept at.  If it were an Olympic Sport, you’d get a gold.
Your poem is as relevant as some nonsense by a pothead or Alice in Wonderland, but at least Lewis Carroll wasn’t malicious. 
opher goodwin Added Jul 4, 2018 - 3:48am
Got you to a T Ryan. And I had great fun doing it. I reckon you are really a repressed homosexual at heart - hence all the unpleasant repression and obsession with sex. Give vent to it. Don't fuck up your life like this. The anger is manifest. Don't let it destroy you. Throw off the shackles of your indoctrination and let your soul free!
Ryan Messano Added Jul 4, 2018 - 10:18am
Full of nonsense, you are a veritable Volcano of slanders.  You just can’t help yourself.  You liberals are lie machines.  You believe and speak lies freely.  You don’t care what the truth is, you care that the truth be what you think it is.  Liberals see what they believe, conservatives believe what we see.  
Then you reach deep in your bag for the liberal atom bomb.  Accuse those who oppose homosexuality of homosexuality and “repression”.  Psychological terrorism.  You are a very sick and delusional man.  I shudder to think of you instructing kids.  If I were a parent, I’d never trust my kid with a sick, lying pervert like you.  
opher goodwin Added Jul 4, 2018 - 11:04am
Ryan - hopefully you will never have kids. If you did I'd hope the authorities would remove them from you to prevent them being abused.
No - there were no lies of my portrayal of your indoctrinated sorry arse. Your sexual repression is manifest in all you say and do. Your fundamentalist indoctrination is as dangerous as ISIS.
I thought you'd take delight in being dissected so thoroughly. It's as good as a course of therapy and I didn't charge a penny.
Now get treatment.
BTW - Lewis Carroll is a recognised genius. Alice was a real work of art.
Ryan Messano Added Jul 4, 2018 - 11:16am
Yes, you wicked man, you evil degenerate, you are for abortion to begin with, and the idea that anyone who tells the truth, which you HATE, should have kids is very frightening to a vile man like you.  Understandable. 
And, like most liberals, you are a big fan of the big nanny state and the "authorities".   Just like your friends Hitler, Mao, and Stalin.  A totalitarian dictator is what you are.  You walked right into the trap.  Nicely done,  nitwit.
You are a wicked libertine and a lecher, and are unfit to talk with adults.  Your opinion is infected with evil.  The idea that anyone practicing continence is somehow bad is so absolutely ridiculous that I don't know where to start.  How do you get so stupid?  I'd really like you to list all the drugs you used.  It's fascinating to learn how liberals like you go insane.  I like to learn, so I can spot your type easier. 
Then, you pipe up about ISIS, when you just got done imitating Islamic terrorism by advocating for "authorities" remove my children.  You are a walking contradiction, you dimwit.  Try to think about what you say before you say it. 
You can't understand yourself, so your efforts to understand me fail even more spectacularly.  You are fodder for hilarity, nothing more.  Learn who you are, and how to be virtuous yourself.  When you do that, you'll understand your fellow human beings, not before.  Go learn how wicked you are, and mourn over that.  When you repent, that's when you'll discover joy and peace. Until then, you'll remain the miserable ignorant charlatan you are.  You hate yourself.  When you lie about me, I understand it's not personal.  You simply can't love me or anyone else when you hate yourself so much.  And why wouldn't you hate yourself?  You engage in evil that degrades and destroys your potential.  It's hard not to hate yourself. 
opher goodwin Added Jul 4, 2018 - 1:30pm
Ryan - how can you argue against abortion??? You are a classic example of someone who should have been aborted!!
Anybody so indoctrinated with fundamentalist ideology is a danger to everyone. At very least you should be sterilised.
I have many friends but those monsters do not happen to be amongst them. My list of monsters would include Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler, Isis and religious fundamentalists like you.
As I said before your abstinence is the root of your problem - most probably repressed homosexuality. But hey - lighten up! Whatever your indoctrination there is nothing wrong with either sex nor homosexuality. Go for it! It'll make you feel a whole lot better and burn off all that bottled up anger and hatred.
You know strangely, as a headteacher I did not get my job by being stoned out of my head but hey, I've got no objection to humans using drugs responsibly. It's not me who is being the dictator here. I'm not trying to stop people having abortions, taking drugs, having sex or looking at porn. I'm promoting freedom. It's you who's the potential dictator and little Hitler.
There is nothing contradictory or unintelligent about what I say.
Yes I'd certainly take your kids away - and I'd take away all the kids of ISIS and other fundamentalists. I'm totally against the abuse of children. It is you who is the evil one - shackled to your brainwashing and a set or archaic Arabic texts full of misogyny, violence and hatred.
I quite like myself thanks. I'm a very caring moral person. It's repressed uptight people like you I dislike. You're a danger to yourself and others. I've witnessed your display of pent up loss of control and histrionics. It was sad. You need treatment.
Ha Ha - I've got you nailed to an absolute T and you're wriggling around like an eel in acid. It's time you stood back and took a good look at yourself and work out what happened to you to make you like you are. It's not too late. There's help to be had. You can still be saved and made human.
Bill H. Added Jul 4, 2018 - 2:40pm
Based on his response, you certainly hit a nerve!
I've never witnessed pent-up hate as I have in Ryan. It's sad, really.
I don't believe he will ever seek help, as the first step towards seeking help is to realize that you need it.
Ryan Messano Added Jul 4, 2018 - 3:08pm
Actually, the people who favor abortion are the ones who deserve abortion.  That would be you, olibertine.
Its called history, you ahistorical dunce, and it’s a disgrace you taught children and know so little of it.
Who cares how many friends you have, your conscience isn’t among them, and that’s the only friend who matters.
You are so blind you don’t recognize you are the very totalitarian monsters you despise, and so you desperately project.  
Virtue is impossible without abstinence outside of marriage, and so you identify yourself as a full blown lecher.  When you can’t control yourself sexually, and you not only can’t, but you foolishly boast about it, you absolutely must lie about others sex life.  You’re not the first.  The degenerate Roman lechers lied about the Christians and slandered then as being cannibals and having orgies. You’re just the latest of a long string of lying lechers.
You remind me of the Duke and Dauphin in Mark Twain’s immortal “Huckleberry Finn”.     These charlatans were total frauds, and dangerous and deceived.   They were really good at deceiving people, and so are you. 
You are totally clueless and don’t understand that sex outside of marriage and drugs are the worst slavery, and you stupidly think denauched choices are some kind of liberty.  Poor deluded soul.
You hate virtue and would attack those who practice it. You didn’t learn anything from the Romans, my ancestors, who stuck Christians in the colosseum to be devoured by lions.
You are one deluded loon, and will have a miserable rest of your life here, and a terrible reckoning in the next.  You wicked pervert.
opher goodwin Added Jul 4, 2018 - 3:14pm
Bill - you are right. He is delusional. But that is par for the course for someone with his background. Being confronted with the reality of his life must be extremely disturbing.
Ryan Messano Added Jul 4, 2018 - 3:40pm
Truth sounds like hate to those who hate truth.
Ryan Messano Added Jul 4, 2018 - 3:41pm
You liberal men have severe allergies to reality, and your trying to diagnose me is absurdly hilarious.
opher goodwin Added Jul 4, 2018 - 3:47pm
Ryan - spoken like a real fundamentalist. You'll be strapping on your explosive suit of martyrdom soon. Abortion has nothing to do with you moron. It's women that get pregnant and they are in charge of their morality. They don't need indoctrinated repressed homosexuals like you to dictate to them. The USA is the land of the free isn't it? Or is that just if you are a fundamentalist Christian?
I know my history thanks. Do you want me to give you the low-down on Christianity and the way it was highjacked by St Paul and Constantine? I will if you want but it wouldn't fit in with the brainwashing programme you've been through.
Virtue has nothing to do with abstinence. It comes from Latin veritas meaning valour or merit. It refers to having a high moral ethic. Nothing to do with sex or abstinence. That puritanical attitude to sex is what is wrong with Christianity. It comes from that Arab misogynistic culture I was telling you about. The Abrahamic tradition is full of it. That is why you are so repressed you can't think. I've no need to lie about my sex life thanks. I've been happily married for longer than you've been alive boy. I've no need to deceive people either. I just tell it as it is. I see through you. You are a poor abused child who has had a life of shit dictated to you by a pair of fundamentalist abusers. You are so pent up you are likely to explode. Get help!!
Before I was wed I had sex outside of marriage and it was great. Sex is great. It brings people together in love. Love is great. Women are great and every bit as equal to men if not better. It's you that is the uptight fool. Your parents fucked you up. It's not your fault.
See - you are getting a free course of therapy. You should pay me.
The Romans were a cruel lot but they probably stuck Christians in the colosseum because they were sorry for them. Better to be eaten by a lion than spend a miserable life as a repressed homosexual.
I do believe in real virtue - leading a highly moral life. Not the false virtue you follow where every pleasure is a source of sin. That's fucked up. I respect women. I don't look down on them. I respect fairness and I am tolerant of all manner of people. I am honest and compassionate, loving and kind. That is real virtue not fucking yourself up with a fear of sex or the idea of some creepy guy in the sky judging you.
There is no god but if there was and he judged people and cast them into hell for enjoying life I'd tell him to fuck off.
Ryan Messano Added Jul 4, 2018 - 4:06pm
Newsflash, libertine!
The entire purpose for sex is marriage and children.  Don’t like it?  Invent a time machine, put yourself back in the womb, and holler for an abortion, you wicked lecher.  
Of course, you can’t talk without lying, and so we have your usual insane allegations of suicide bombings. I’d really like to see what your colleagues and students said of you.  I’m pretty sure they’d tell us what you are really like.  Liberal men like you are notorious for getting into trouble for diddling.  You holler about freedom and liberty while you break the law in private.  I absolutely detest your kind.
Your first two sentences have two lies already.
Let me warn you.  Every consequentialliberal I’ve tangled with on here is gone.
You will be the latest.  You’ll be destroyed.  The WB regulars remember Merrily Lying Fraud.  She got stomped, and the day after her hallucinations of Hillary winning the presidency was ended, she scampered off here, and has never been heard of since.  You’ll be intellectually stomped too.  I love doing it, since even though you are too stubborn to learn, you’ll be used as an example to others.  Than you for volunteeeing as a training dummy, so I can demonstrate for all how to effectively destroy a liberal in the public arena.  I’m not here to make friends with evil degenerates like you. I’m here to thoroughly humiliate and excoriate you.  When I’m done with you, you’ll dream of the day before you decided to cross paths with me, wistfully.  
Ryan Messano Added Jul 4, 2018 - 4:17pm
You know no history at all, you debauched dimwit.  
Name five biographies of the 204 Founders you’ve read, you lying and deceitful snake.  Hint, you can’t.  Just admit you don’t know.  It’s good for you.  
Virtue, courage, and abstinence are all linked, lecher.  
How dumb can you get?
Did you just stupidly say that you can have a high moral ethic without confining sex to marriage?  Where did you learn that nonsense, numbskull?  How come you are so dumb.yhat you can’t understand that the French Revolution was full of libertines like you and ended disastrously?  What is so hard to understand about that?  You appear to have a seared conscience.
Profanity is the sign of a weak mind or a weak argument, and in your case, it’s the sign of both.
Yes, you were and are a degenerate, weak minded, libertine.  Pathetic and incompetent.  Like a dog in heat, you can’t tell yourself no.  You are an animal, and can’t understand ideas which require self denial to comprehend.  Paul called your type ‘brute beasts’ and I heartily concur.  
You are a pansy, milquetoast, weak, effete, dissipated, and emasculated pathetic excuse for a man. 
We will I’ll see what God has to say about you throwing F bombs his way.  It’s a fearful thing to fall in the hands of the living God.  I shudder to be you.  The bleached bones of scorners like you litter history, but that doesn’t appear to bother you any.  Of course, you’re a few f who doesn’t know history in the first place, which is a big part of the problem.
opher goodwin Added Jul 4, 2018 - 4:57pm
Ryan - you forget I am from the UK. I don't have to read the biographies of other nations. Though I was rather interested in the atheism and paganism of the founding fathers and found Tom Paine and Tom Jefferson interesting characters. I prefer the more interesting lives of Clement Atlee, William Morris and D H Lawrence.
Virtue, courage and abstinence are not linked at all - fool. Your perverted views on abstinence come straight out of the sexually repressed Arab culture you prescribe to. You know nothing. You are a child with no life experience and you are talking to a man whose experience so far exceeds yours as to be like a microbe looking at an elephant. You need to grow up, travel, experience other cultures, marry, raise children, have a career and then come back and talk to me. I feel like I'm having a conversation with a 7th grader.
There's nothing what-so-ever wrong with profanity so fuck off if you can't stand it. That's how men talk. We're not in the playground now.
My competence is there for all to see. I ran one of the most successful schools in Britain. What have you run - an egg and spoon race?
It's you who is the repressed homosexual. I am the father of four children and hardly a pansy or effete. You twerp.
St Paul was the fundamentalist who took Jesus's teaching and spun them into something else. He was a monster who saddled us with puritanism, guilt and repression - all the things you suffer from, boy.
Your juvenile fear of some super pixie in the sky who will throw you into everlasting hell is rather sad. As for me - I have no such fear. There is no god. Any super-being who devised everlasting hell would be a sadist. An obvious product of control by a power-seeking man. A product of fiction from human imagination just like all the other innumerable forgotten gods who preceded him.
You spend your life cringing to a fiction if you like. I prefer to stand tall as a real man.
Ryan Messano Added Jul 4, 2018 - 5:20pm
Then, do yourself and us a favor, and don’t discuss topics you aren’t qualified to discuss.  That’s more revisionist history.  Painewas a debauched man and died miserable and scorned.  Jefferson had plenty of good to say about the Bible.
Churchill said of Atlee: “He was a very modest man and had plenty to be modest about”.  
D.H. Lawrence was a full blown libertine.  As a young man I perused his debauched “Lady Chatterleys lover” and am sorry I did.  Vile filth masquerading as art.
Even your own know virtue and courage are linked.  I know the history of England better than you, which is pitiful because I’ve never been there.  “My strength is as the strength of ten, because my heart is pure” Alfred Lord Tennyson 
Yoir debauched views on sexuality come from the wicked Kinsey Report, and the man, like you, was a wicked fraud.
Your experience means nothing.  Wise men learn from the experiences of others, fools barely learn from their own.
Like all ignorant men, you are proud.  
One more instance of profanity, and this conversation is over, and all comments of yours will be deleted.  I don’t expect a reprobate like you to care. 
If your students morals are like yours, we have lots of menaces to society running around Ye Olde England.  No wonder we have Khan of Londonistan.  Degenerates like you elected him, and your whole nation is fast becoming a Middle East Muslim hellhole.  
Paul expounded on Christ’s teachings.  You know and practice neither so your critique is meaningless.
You have no fear of God, and like all the fools in the past, march heedlessly and proudly to your doom.
opher goodwin Added Jul 4, 2018 - 5:47pm
Ryan - as you should know Jefferson was very reticent about his beliefs and was known to not believe in the trinity and to deny that Jesus was the Messiah or the son of God. Doesn't sound like a Christian to me. They called him a Christian Deist but I reckon from what was said about him he was a devout atheist.
There you are another lesson for you boy.
Churchill was a drunk. My mother worked with him. He was an arrogant man and responsible for the deaths of thousands from his botched handling of Gallipoli. He was devout establishment elitist and the moral fairness of Atlee was a barbed sword in his side. Hardly a good man to quote on Atlee, son.
Of course DH was a libertine - the only way to be. Life is there to experience. Lady Chatterley, which you could not possibly understand with such limited experience, was a masterpiece. It wasn't about sex. It was about the war and the repression of sex which prevented people experiencing the force of nature. When you've grown up I'll explain it to you.
The Kinsey Report had nothing to do with my sexual views. I only needed to look at the fucked up society with its hypocrisy and repression to know that that Arab puritanism and misogyny was wrong.
Khan is a great man with great moral values. Your bigoted views reveal more about you than anything. Your Islamophobia is another morally repugnant aspect of your brainwashing. Your parents really did a job on you, boy.
My students were taught to think, reason and respect. They were not taught to recite verse and become a bigoted moron. Consequently they are far better citizens than you could ever be, child.
Paul perverted Jesus's teaching for his own political purposes and was at odds with Jesus's brother (who lived and worked with Jesus and knew a lot better than Paul). You've been fed propaganda.
No I don't fear fictions. You can stuff them. I live in the real world. God is a projection from the minds of men. You can keep it.
You've already marched to your doom. Too afraid to live. Your whole life is a waste of time. Get help.
Ryan Messano Added Jul 4, 2018 - 6:23pm
Read ‘The Jefferson Lies’.  Google and the media have indoctrinated you on Jefferson.  Until you read five biographies of the Founders, you really shouldn’t talk.  
Churchill was no lush, more lies.  His life was brilliant.  He made mistakes, but you’d be speaking German right now, if it weren’t for him, you wretched ingrate.  It’s not the governments job to redistribute wealth.  Churchill got that, Atlee didn’t.
And there is your profanity again, and that’s the end of this conversation.  
Your comments on my posts will all be deleted on my posts from
this point out, until you clean up that filthy mouth of yours.
opher goodwin Added Jul 4, 2018 - 7:35pm
You childish idiot Ryan. My wife was there. Churchill had to have someone holding his belt from behind to stop him toppling off the balcony he was so pissed. He drank huge quantities and was pissed out of his brains most of the time.
So you're throwing your toys out of the cot. Big deal. The cot is about your level. You child - go fuck yourself you repressed fool.
Bill H. Added Jul 6, 2018 - 3:20pm
I ignored this fool for over a week, and requested that he ignore me (which of course, he didn't). He had to go out of his way (like that pimply little red-headed slap child down the street) and mention me in every thread he went to.
I will ask one more time - Ryan, you don't exist and I don't exist...................................GOT IT??
opher goodwin Added Jul 9, 2018 - 10:43am
Bill - he is just a little brat dropout who has been horribly indoctrinated and is a religious nut.
Ryan Messano Added Jul 9, 2018 - 10:47am
Lincoln, Carnegie, and Washington had less education than me, and were far more talented and wiser than you.  You’ve been educated out of your common sense.  You are historically clueless.  
Had wicked degenerates like you founded America, we’d have been destroyed in two decades.
opher goodwin Added Jul 10, 2018 - 6:28am
Child - this is you
Troll off!!