The US Midterm Results - A Perfect Outcome!

I was watching the American Midterm elections with some trepidation. After all, when the President pees it tends to come down on our heads!

 

I think the result was about perfect.

 

If the Republicans had taken both the Senate and Congress Trump would have been unleashed to carry out all his dangerous policies without hindrance. His campaign of fear and hate would have worked. He would have become even more extreme.

 

Fortunately that didn't happen.

 

If the Democrats had won both houses with a landslide then they would have become complacent and not taken the steps necessary to counter Trump's re-election in two years.

 

Complacency is not an option. It is no good simply having the policy of opposing Trump. It would be a disaster to simply trot out Hilary again and Bernie is too old.

 

What the Democrats need to do is to sort out a credible candidate and a set of coherent policies that people can get behind. This may well be the impetus to do that!

 

So this is perfect.

 

Trump will now find his more extreme policies are restricted and his power is diminished. We may well find that his tax evasions and other sins are going to be exposed so that people wake up to the true nature of the man. He will be reined in.

 

The Democrats need to wake up and face the dragon with purpose and intent. They need to get onto the front foot and present a positive message of hope with a set of great policies and a credible candidate.

 

The heart of America is still beating. Compassion and caring hasn't completely died. Fear and hatred do not rule with impunity.

 

I sense the fight back and a glimmer of hope

Comments

opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 9:12am
Hopefully something better will come out of the next couple of years and the division and vitriol might just cool down a tad.
TexasLynn Added Nov 8, 2018 - 9:54am
Opher >> If the Republicans had taken both the Senate and Congress Trump would have been unleashed to carry out all his dangerous policies without hindrance.
 
I'm not following your logic...
 
Republicans have had the Senate and Congress for several years now, including the last two of the Trump administration.  Why would they suddenly be “unleashed” (had they won) vs not unleashed now?  Or a month ago?  Or a year ago?
 
Opher >> What the Democrats need to do is to sort out a credible candidate and a set of coherent policies that people can get behind. This may well be the impetus to do that!
 
Personally, I'm rooting for the Democrats to become sane (or as close as they have ever been), but I wouldn't bet a nickel on it.  You'll see a double down on everything they've been doing for the last few years.  Just my prediction.  You will also have no less than twenty people vying for the 2020 nomination.  That starts today.
 
It is more likely you will see impeachment (but not conviction) of Trump and/or Kavanaugh than any semblance of sanity from the Democrats.
 
Opher >> Trump will now find his more extreme policies are restricted and his power is diminished.
 
I disagree.  Trump will find his every policy restricted and his power diminished.  That is the nature of TDS now so prevalent on the left.
 
My advice to Trump is to offer a bipartisan olive branch to the House (like he did with DACA and border security), and when it is slapped away, move on.
 
What Trump does have over the next two years is the Senate and thus, judicial nominations (maybe even another Supreme Court pick).  That is where he should really focus his attention; where he can make the most impact.
 
Opher >> Hopefully something better will come out of the next couple of years and the division and vitriol might just cool down a tad.
 
Not a chance.  The anti-fascist fascist will see to that.
 
Not that I completely agree with your assessment, but this has been one of your saner posts of late… thus the rare “like” click, from TexasLynn. :)
Stone-Eater Added Nov 8, 2018 - 10:10am
Oph
 
Finally who cares ? WE Europeans have to get our act together and put up a common strategy to become independent of any other hegemonic agenda.
 
We were the leaders of the world for a while (not according to human rights though), changing countries, the UK, France, Portugal, you name it, who had NO colonies ? 
 
The new powers didn't learn from our mistakes and arrogance, no, they copy them. Why ?
 
Because humans are humans. The "new" powers will also become a part of history, and others will take their place in n generations.
 
Life is a circle. No way out. 
Frosty Wooldridge Added Nov 8, 2018 - 10:37am
One writer years ago said, "This US Constitution; good men can't make it better and bad men can't make it worse. It will meander down through time."  At the same time, America is being invaded by an endless migrant onslaught that won't end until we, too, become a third world country. And, Americans remain too fat, lazy and apathetic to stop it. 
Liberal1 Added Nov 8, 2018 - 10:37am
I agree.  American politics works best when they are tied into an ineffectual knot and neither party can screw over the common man.  
Bob Added Nov 8, 2018 - 10:40am
Regarding the policies that matter most, the corporate party will always screw the laborer. The democrats taking the house will only create more spectacle and burlesque in DC. At least we'll have more entertainment from this circus presidency. 
George N Romey Added Nov 8, 2018 - 10:43am
As Bob said we will see nothing more than spectacle.  We the debt peonaged peasants can watch the ruling elite fight for power.  The Romans had their gladiators for political entertainment.  Today we get characters like Trump and Pelosi.  We'd probably be better off with the gladiators.  At least they were brave (albeit in a stupid way.)
Steel Breeze Added Nov 8, 2018 - 10:44am
i dont comment on the politics of other countries cause:
1. dont know enuff about them...
2. dont care even if i did....
3. got enuff of our own shit to straighten out....
4. after 70 years have yet to see anyone else get it "right"...
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 10:52am
Tex - I think there has been resistance in the Republican Party to some of the wilder things. If he had gained a resounding victory it would have removed all constraints.
I too want them to sort themselves out - come up with some good policies and ditch Hilary. Hopefully they won't go for an impeachment but they will start to investigate some of the other stuff - like potential tax fraud.
It would be nice to think that the more extreme rhetoric is moderated and there is more bipartisan work. That would be good for everyone.
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 10:53am
Stone - the only reason I care is that it impacts on us in such a major way and also I have good American friends.
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 10:56am
Frosty - I see immigration is top of your list. Perhaps it is time for America to start taking it seriously and dealing with the root causes - overpopulation, unemployment, wars and poverty. It would be cheaper than constantly waging wars and having to deal with multitudes of refugees (economic and from war zones) along with the terrorism that it spawns.
Even A Broken Clock Added Nov 8, 2018 - 11:01am
Opher - what is your assessment on whether Brexit will have an opportunity to be rescinded?
 
There is no doubt that we are seeing around the world a trend towards rightist authoritarianism. But all we can do is try to oppose it one election at a time. This was a partial repudiation of Trumpism, but far from a complete rejection of his brand of style over substance.
Gerrilea Added Nov 8, 2018 - 11:03am
Opher G--- Why does it matter if he "cheated" on his taxes? Is is actually cheating if one take advantage of the loopholes Congress intentionally put in place?
 
You might not really understand this, he can now appoint and fill the federal judiciary with his picks to lifetime appointments, meaning that the war is almost over for the unconstitutional agenda that the demo-rats have been engaging in.
 
Alas, that's my plebeian assessment this early morning....I doubt that that ANYTHING will change, as usual.  The status quo has been maintained, that's what our corporate overlords wanted.
 
The Republicans in the House didn't repeal Obamacare, even though they voted multiple times to repeal it when they were in the minority...they were token votes...and when it came to really doing something, once they regained control... they served their own interests, just like the demo-rats.
 
The end result, We The People, still get screwed.
 
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 11:27am
Lib - well lets hope that it start to function a lot more smoothly.
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 11:28am
Bob - it might well be entertaining - but underlying that are peoples' lives.
Dino Manalis Added Nov 8, 2018 - 11:28am
 Congratulations to all the winners, Democrats and Republicans should come together and find common ground and emphasize unity and bipartisanship to achieve significant results.
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 11:29am
George - that said - there is the fall-out of this spectacle on the lives of the ordinary people which is none too clever.
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 11:30am
Steel - maybe you would if it was greatly impacting on you.
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 11:31am
Stone - I do think that things are slowly getting better and that we can exert some influence. I am, and remain, an idealist.
Stone-Eater Added Nov 8, 2018 - 12:15pm
Oph
 
We have no influence on long range missiles and religious indoctrincation. After 60 years on that planet I don't have the idea to play MLK or Gandhi. I put up my house on the beach and try to be a positive influence (what I subjectively understand by that) on my direct environment, and the rest I leave to the other about 8'000'000'987 people on that ball LOL
Ken Added Nov 8, 2018 - 12:19pm
both the Senate and Congress
 
The senate is part of congress
 
Trump would have been unleashed to carry out all his dangerous policies
 
What policies would those be?  What has he done to date that is "dangerous policy"?
 
His campaign of fear and hate would have worked
 
What fear and hate would that be?
 
We may well find that his tax evasions and other sins are going to be exposed 
 
What tax evasions would those be?  He has been audited every year for the past couple of decades and the IRS hasn't found any - even the politicized IRS by Obama administration.  What do you know that those who have actually investigated his returns don't?
 
Your constant incompetence and complete lack of understanding of the political political and legal system are on full display here.
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 12:20pm
Stone - I can understand that. But I think that only by good people constantly looking to make things better do we cause any improvement. 
We've stopped those missiles landing so far and we're not living in a theocracy yet!
George N Romey Added Nov 8, 2018 - 12:21pm
The fallout?  People just vote in another group of rich or wannabee rich, wannabee kings and queens.  So nothing changes until the entire system is blown up.  Elections have consequences, the consequence being you replace one set of elites for another set of elites.  
George N Romey Added Nov 8, 2018 - 12:24pm
The Trump elites are the ones that like to talk about how they made money and who they screwed along the way.  Pelosi is from the set of elites that think ordinary Americans are kept up at night wondering which bathroom trannies should be allowed to use.
Ken Added Nov 8, 2018 - 12:27pm
 Democrats and Republicans should come together and find common ground and emphasize unity and bipartisanship to achieve significant results.
 
Not only won't that happen, it shouldn't happen.  On the last 2 CR republicans gave democrats everything they wanted in spending.  On DACA trump proposed 2-3x as many recipients staying as they asked for.  Democrats were completely unappreciative and refuse to reciprocate on anything.  They are only "Bipartisan" when it achieves their ideological goal.
 
The colletivist top down big government state is antithetical to the American ideal.  It is European Fabian socialism.  Anything that moves farther down that road should be quickly rejected
Stone-Eater Added Nov 8, 2018 - 12:30pm
Oph
 
But I think that only by good people constantly looking to make things better do we cause any improvement. 
 
"Good" people is an illusion. What is good for some is bad for others. Since Homo Stupidus exists, wars and conquests exist, and it will never end.
 
I wish it would be different but it isn't. Why ? Because GROUP THINK is the problem. We think we're individuals but we're not. Humans haven't arrived to a point where intelligence (or better, empathy) can decide fate. Proof ?
 
We repeat constantly mistakes of former generations ever since. We do NOT fucking learn from the past !
 
So forget it. All well-meaning and intellect can NOT compete to power acquired by force. And when intellect fails, force becomes pevalent.
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 12:58pm
George - some are better than others.
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 1:00pm
Ha Stone - you've become a cynic. Build a better world for your lovely daughter! Things are better in many ways to what they used to be.
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 1:07pm
Ken - dangerous policies - brinkmanship with North Korea, Israel and NATO. Trade wars. Tax cuts for the wealthy creating deficits. Environmental safeguards. Opening up polluting industries. Reducing health and safety regs. Pulling out of international treaties. Iran. Constantly decrying all experts, scientists and news.
Hate - demonising refugees, Muslims and people of colour. Encouraging mass chanting of hate towards various groups - Hilary, Obama, media. Actively encouraging violence towards hecklers and people being arrested. Stereotyping. Misogyny.
Enough for now. He sets a tone for abuse that is clearly visible in the way people interact. WB is a good example. The tone has become much nastier. That's the Trump effect.
Stone-Eater Added Nov 8, 2018 - 1:08pm
Oph
 
Autumn deleted the article. Gotta post it again later .....Grrr
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 1:09pm
Ken - people can work together on many issues to find common ground or make compromises. Trump governs for his own narrow group - but he is President of the whole nation.
Ken Added Nov 8, 2018 - 1:12pm
Obama governed for his own narrow group.  If you consider Trump's narrow group to include hispanics, blacks, women, virtually every other demographic that have record unemployment and all received tax cuts you would be more accurate.
 
Your hate and complete lack of knowledge out to be embarrassing for a supposed "scientist".
 
You are so ideological driven fact after fact is completely ignored by you.
Stone-Eater Added Nov 8, 2018 - 1:16pm
Ken
 
Neither Oph nor many others here HATE. You seem not to understand the definition of HATE. We simply think *sigh* and *well, then*.
 
But don't you ever complain after when your orange buddy who is NOT really in charge of what he pretends fucks up. Because it won't be his fault. He's gonna have enough dough to carry on in the name of his masters LOL
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 1:19pm
Ken - here's a mirror! 
Did you see hate? Where's that then? What you saw was an exposure of the thing the man is doing that is wrong - what you asked for. Try reading it. Nothing that isn't true.
If you want to see hate in action then I suggest you watch a Trump rally.
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 1:20pm
Stone - yes she does that. She's a stickler for the time limit. It is very restricting if something is topical.
Jim Stoner Added Nov 8, 2018 - 1:24pm
opher,  Thanks for the article--I think you are being a bit panglossian, though.  What would have made this a great outcome would have been victories for the Democrats in the statewide races Florida, Georgia, and Texas.  I would call this an acceptable outcome, because of the control of the House passing to the Democratic side, which will provide some check on Trump's outlandish behavior (since the Republicans failed, for the most part, to do so), and because the popular vote shows that the majority of Americans are not deceived by this sleazy, corrupt con man.  Eventually we will regain government "by the people". 
.    Nothing much is going to change, though:  I think the Democrats' approach is, and should be, to be civil to their opponents, with the exception of Trump, who deserves every insult, mockery, and contempt that can be addressed in his direction.   There will be a period of a few months in which the Democratic House collects information, and tries to work with the Republicans legislatively, then the full-scale political war of 2020 will begin.   Basically, as I predicted, a big expensive mess--sort of like the last general election in Britain, in which the Conservatives lost their majority but failed to overturn the disastrous direction of their policy (Brexit fail).  Only the British do it cheaper. 
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 1:24pm
Ken - The republicans were 9% down. Despite the short-term tax-cuts (greatly benefitting the rich) and the short-term effects on the economy (all of which will come home to roost further down the line) - most people rejected his brand of vitriol and hate. He does not represent all those groups at all. Educated people largely rejected him. He's a snake-oil conman and they know it.
Ken Added Nov 8, 2018 - 1:25pm
If you want to see hate in action then I suggest you watch a Trump rally.
 
I have over the last few weeks.  Have you?  I would bet no.
Stone-Eater Added Nov 8, 2018 - 1:31pm
Ken
 
Yep.
 
MAGA !
 
As if "America" (the US, in fact, so much for own understanding) would never have been GREAT. Hm....take out the weaponry (brute force) and immigration (remember the old imported German Nazis who enabled the atom bomb), what is so SPECIAL about the US ?
 
No-fucking-thing.
 
It is a country of IMMIGRANTS, artificially made up. The constant "One nation" blather is a method to remind the people that they've arrived in paradise where everybody can make it. Not quite, This ain't the time of the Marshall Plan.
 
Today we don't want the fucking Mexicans and other dark-skinned crap. Who arrived before 1950 for example became an American. Who arrived after, nope. We're full. Don't need no new ones because we need our jobs. Fuck the Chinese, they STOLE our jobs !
 
Why ?
 
Because it's not the Mexicans who stole your jobs. It's your rulers, white American politicians, the corporatists, who stole your jobs by offhshoring it. Got that ?
Stone-Eater Added Nov 8, 2018 - 1:33pm
BTW:
 
There is one thing the US and Israel have in common: They both (or are they one?) think they're special. Error. Sooner or later everybody who's got too much of an ego will be set back in his place.
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 1:36pm
Oh yes - I watched the lies and hate-speech spewed out about the imminent invasion from the terrorists, rapists and drug cartels.
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 1:38pm
Jim - I think you may be right.
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 1:43pm
Jim - a restraint on Trump's more extreme behaviour would be a good thing, wouldn't it? I do hope the Dems get their act together and put up a good candidate. Now they have the house of reps they can start to investigate more deeply. I think there will be revelations. His goose is cooking. I don't think I'm being too optimistic.
The last thing we want is complacency from the Dems - good policies and a good candidate.
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 1:43pm
Stone - arrogance should be punished.
Stone-Eater Added Nov 8, 2018 - 1:44pm
Oph
 
That's why that joke has a truth:
 
There is a plane flying loops. An American looks at it and...
 
"WOOOW !!!! AMAZING !!! OOOH MY GOOD ! LOOK AT THIIS !!!!"
 
A Canadian besides looks at it too
 
"Well, not bad."
 
You see, US-Americans make drama about everything and tell it so loud that the whole world has to notice it.
 
In Senegal I was in a hotel, and it was full of Whites working in an ONG close to there, French, Spaniards and Americans. It was quiet, but one table was screamingly loud. They shouted so loud all the time all the other guests were annoyed....and when I asked the waitress she said "C'est toujours comme ça. Les Americains viennent pour être remarqués"....
Jim Stoner Added Nov 8, 2018 - 2:06pm
I like Sherrod Brown, senator from Ohio, who just was re-elected quite handily (while the Governor's race went to the Republicans).  He is quite intelligent, a good representative of his constituents, a good speaker, and has again proven he can win in the pivotal state of Ohio.  On the negative side:  he is a white male in his 60's (not the best for building a new image for the party), and he's not crazy about joining in the circus which is American Presidential election campaigns.  On that I can hardly blame him, but if he chooses to run, he would be my first choice. 
Rick W. Added Nov 8, 2018 - 2:07pm
I too think this was a good election. Beto pulling 48% to Cruz's 51% is remarkable. No Texas Democrat has done that in decades. The Texas suburbs are going purple, where before they were solidly red. 
 
I didn't expect Beto to win, or the Dems to win the Senate. Taking the House, with its investigative powers, was good enough.
 
What got buried, though, in all the focus on the Senate races, were some of the remarkable stories of newcomers to the House, like Lauren Underwood, a black nurse in an 85% white, wealthy Chicago suburb, who'd never run for anything -- and who beat the incumbent four-term Trump-supporting Republican. Part of that was a reaction to Trump, of course, but part too was a broader liberal shift in the 'burbs.
TexasLynn Added Nov 8, 2018 - 2:24pm
Stone Eater >> We repeat constantly mistakes of former generations ever since. We do NOT fucking learn from the past !
 
I'm really enjoying this train of thought... because it is so biblical.  King Solomon (supposedly the wisest man to ever live) to be exact.
 
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From Ecclesiastes: Chapter 1
 
These are the words from the Teacher (Solomon), a son of David and king of Jerusalem.
 
Everything is so meaningless. It is all a waste of time! Do people really gain anything from all the hard work they do in this life?
 
People live and people die, but the earth continues forever. The sun rises and the sun goes down, and then it hurries to rise again in the same place.  ...  Words cannot fully explain things, but people continue speaking. Words come again and again to our ears, but our ears don’t become full. And our eyes don’t become full of what we see.
 
All things continue the way they have been since the beginning. The same things will be done that have always been done. There is nothing new in this life.  Someone might say, “Look, this is new,” but that thing has always been here. It was here before we were.
 
People don’t remember what happened long ago. In the future, they will not remember what is happening now. And later, other people will not remember what the people before them did.
 
I, was king over Israel in Jerusalem. I decided to study and to use my wisdom to learn about everything that is done in this life. I learned that it is a very hard thing that God has given us to do.  I looked at everything done on earth, and I saw that it is all a waste of time. It is like trying to catch the wind...
 
I said to myself, “I am very wise. I am wiser than all the kings who ruled Jerusalem before me. I know what wisdom and knowledge really are.” I decided to learn how wisdom and knowledge are better than thinking foolish thoughts. But I learned that trying to become wise is like trying to catch the wind.
 
With much wisdom comes frustration. The one who gains more wisdom also gains more sorrow.
 
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You seem very wise… and sorrowful as of late. 
 
I’m as cynical and sorrowful as you are, my friend, minus the sorrow that THIS is all there is.  All the sorrow in the world can’t drown that joy.  I wish you peace…
TexasLynn Added Nov 8, 2018 - 2:31pm
Rick W >> I too think this was a good election. Beto pulling 48% to Cruz's 51% is remarkable. No Texas Democrat has done that in decades. The Texas suburbs are going purple, where before they were solidly red.
 
No Democrat has raised $70+ million from out of state and outspent the Republican 2-1 before either. Not that I'm saying you're wrong about the nation and even Texas moving left. It the natural progression of any republic in the throws of suicide.
 
When Texas elects a statewide leftist (the likes of Beto), you can turn out the lights.
Katharine Otto Added Nov 8, 2018 - 2:47pm
Opher,
My advice:  Turn off the television.  You'll feel better.  Yes, some flipping and flopping has occurred in the US, but I wonder what ultimate relevance it will have.  The machine seems to run itself, no matter which players are at the helm.  
 
Stone,
What made America great was vast, untapped resources on two continents.  In the past 500 years, we have plundered those resources to waste and export, paved and polluted, and basically turned a pristine environment into an over-peopled  cesspool that is poisoning us all.  Africa risks going the same way, so watch out.
 
What will make America great again?  Maybe a little appreciation for what we have remaining, and a little respect for our creative potential. 
 
Have you ever heard of living down to low expectations?  Rulers and control-freaks throughout history justify their excesses by convincing themselves the masses aren't capable of managing their lives without help.  However, it seems isolated pockets of people do just fine until outsiders come in and want to save them from themselves.
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 3:24pm
Stone - they seem to be louder away from home. When you are living there they don't seem so brash. And, of course, it isn't all Americans.
we seem to be inheriting it. I notice it with audiences squealing and whooping. They never used to do that.
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 3:25pm
Jim - I am not familiar with him. I'll have a look on line.
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 3:27pm
Rick - yes there has been quite a shift. A 9% lead would have been converted to a major shift in the UK. In the States the system favours the rural, Republican areas. It hid the true rejection of the Trump philosophy. But I think he is on the run and knows it. 
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 3:30pm
Tex - there we differ. That's when we turn on the lights and celebrate a new age of compassion and fairness.
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 3:36pm
Katharine - yes it would be a lot easier to hide away and not pay it any attention - except that it doesn't go on the same. When a different regime takes over there are tangible differences that are life and death to many people. It isn't all more of the same. There are different philosophies, different priorities and different groups of people favoured.
Since I have been on WB I have noticed a distinct change in tone. The guy at the top sets that tone. It affects everyone.
What I have seen from history is that the people do not manage themselves when left alone. They get preyed on by the bullies, robbed blind and exploited. Life in the past was a misery for most people, dangerous, violent and precarious. A small elite lived in absolute splendour. The rest paid. 
Things have got a lot better for ordinary people - but only due to the efforts of the activists.
George N Romey Added Nov 8, 2018 - 4:39pm
Opher you keep expecting some superman hero from what you view as the liberal left to come to the rescue.  Newsflash, there is no one.
 
What there is are those that live and revel in the life of well educated, elite, usually born with a silver spoon in their liberal mouths.  They really couldn't give a shit about the creation of a second gilded age.  After all their friends just keep getting richer.
 
Instead they run around and worry about being "pc" or what bathroom transgenders should be allowed to use.  They are completely out of touch with what ordinary people go through.
 
Do I think Trump is sincere?  No. But he at least could get his head unstuck from the elite ass to understand what many Americans were feeling.  Clinton was just clueless.  She couldn't understand what a struggling family in Iowa was going through.  And more importantly she didn't want to.  Because they weren't Ivy League educated they were "deplorables."
 
I watched Pelosi speak yesterday (I was in an airport and it happened to be on the lounge tv.)  She sounds as fake and phony as a pink three dollar bill.  And she's your savior?
 
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 6:48pm
Mogg - what you suggest would indeed be a better form of democracy. Unfortunately most of the population is neither educated enough, nor has access to unbiased information or has the time, interest or energy to devote to understanding the ramifications in order to make that work.
In theory we vote for intelligent representatives to represent us and carry out this job.
There is clearly a major difference that occurs with one party or another.
While we have populations of tens or hundreds of millions I cannot think of any system that would work perfectly.
We have to accept that we end up with something that in far from perfect - yet it does work and our lives are fairly comfortable and safe.
The different parties favour different segments of the population. I think we have to make the best we can of it.
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 6:53pm
George - I don't have a saviour and I don't expect any perfect system. I just expect to make things better and fairer than they are right now.
It is a choice between two evils. We have to choose the lesser. 
The political system we all have (here and over there) is highly imperfect - but it works. In general most of us live comfortable and safe lives.
We have to make it work as good as possible.
In terms of the US the Democrats are obviously the best choice. But they aren't anywhere near perfect.
Ken Added Nov 8, 2018 - 9:05pm
The left is now officially trying to steel the 2018 election.  Every election this seems to happen.  Broward and Palm Beach Counties have suddenly found "more ballots" in the past 48 hours but won't explain where they came from or let people in to watch them counting and DeSantis and Scotts leads are dropping and the SEcretary of Agriculture (a major cabinet position) has now flipped to democrat.
 
Apparently winning by 85,000 votes for governor and 65,000 votes for Senator in florida isn't enough now.
 
Same thing is now also happening in Arizona where ballots have  been found in that close race and shock!  Taliban Sinema is now leading McSally by 1000 votes or so.
 
Trying to flip the senate and the Florida governor.
 
Oh and did I mention the Election supervisor in Broward county has already been in trouble in 2016 for similar tactics?
Jeffry Gilbert Added Nov 8, 2018 - 11:01pm
Oh and did I mention the Election supervisor in Broward county has already been in trouble in 2016 for similar tactics?
 
Don't confuse the little guy with facts. 
 
Ken Added Nov 8, 2018 - 11:22pm
lol Jeffry, so I shouldn't point out all the charges against her and lawsuits because of what she illegally did in 2016?  The stunning thing is that the bluest county in Florida doesn't care that she clearly cheats, and reelects her.
 
But there is no major election fraud we keep hearing right?
Minister Peaceful Poet Added Nov 8, 2018 - 11:51pm
I agree - there needs to be a balance of power and there is.  I think it went well. 
Ken Added Nov 9, 2018 - 1:15am
isn't it incredible how everytime Opher (and certain others) posts something he almost immediately gets posted to #1 and stays there for hours while rest may get a #1 position for a few minutes - after hours of having posted an article to even be noticed?
Flying Junior Added Nov 9, 2018 - 3:08am
That's because we love our Opher!
 
Opher,
 
I appreciate a little bit of distance.  Stone is so distant I'm never sure if he even really cares about U.S. politics.
 
Yes, good thoughts.  And of course, your opinion is mostly observable fact.  Allow me to explain to our good buddy Lynn why Trump is suddenly unleashed.  Lynn, it's because they had to be careful heading into the mid-terms not to do anything that might be considered politically dangerous.  It's as simple as that.
 
Well, one thing we know for sure...  Repeal and Replace is just a big, fucking lie.  The republicans don't have a plan, never did and never will.  So if they really do have the hutzpah to actually repeal Obamacare, you can bet that they will not be ready with a viable plan to replace it.  Maybe Paul Ryan could take some oxycontin and stay up for two weeks writing one?  It is scary having wicked republicans like McConnell and Paul Ryan in positions of power with a fucking demon like Trump poised to sign into law various travesties with his brand new Sharpie!  Hopefully this will all be in the rear-view mirror quite soon as the U.S.A. comes back to her senses and more and more young people come of age to register to vote.  One million young people every year!





Flying Junior Added Nov 9, 2018 - 3:49am
A republican friend just reminded me...  Now Trump will never get his stupid wall!

Stone-Eater Added Nov 9, 2018 - 5:00am
FJ
 
Why not `The Chinese know how to build walls...very cheap, sir :-)
opher goodwin Added Nov 9, 2018 - 5:28am
Ken - steel??? Do you mean steal??
What like the hanging chad??
opher goodwin Added Nov 9, 2018 - 5:29am
MPP - cheers. I think it is the best outcome.
opher goodwin Added Nov 9, 2018 - 5:30am
Ken - do I detect jealousy?? 
Though I think this is in your imagination.
opher goodwin Added Nov 9, 2018 - 5:33am
Thank you FJ. A different perspective may often be useful.
Youth is the future salvation of the country.
opher goodwin Added Nov 9, 2018 - 5:34am
Stone - it did take them a number of centuries.
Stone-Eater Added Nov 9, 2018 - 7:11am
Oph
 
Halliburton can make that in no time :-)
opher goodwin Added Nov 9, 2018 - 7:13am
Stone - LOL.
Spartacus Added Nov 9, 2018 - 10:02am
If the Republicans had taken both the Senate and Congress . . . 
 
Why do stupid people not know they are stupid?  Arrogant people often succumb to this.  They just cannot accept that they are stupid but plod along unwavering.
 
I suppose nobody else noticed the error in the oph's statement there.  Certainly not the Europeans who love to hack into American politics.  I suppose they feel that Americans hack into their lives and are justified in this way.  Certainly, Americans have hacked into Europe, culturally.  (They eat our fast-food, buy our inventions and listen to our music.)
 
Everyone makes mistakes.  Yet, it is no mistake that a Brit, a European, would write a hit piece on an American election, not get American politics correct, and still get 8 votes (half of which were his own).
 
Well anyway.  We plod to the finish with racist idiots like oph in tow.  I suppose I should give him some credit.  He did not use any skin-tone references in this article to justify his opinions.
opher goodwin Added Nov 9, 2018 - 10:13am
Lol Spartacus - better to be stupid than rude. Making a mistake doesn't make one stupid though does it?
Where's this racism I'm supposed to have come out with?
Please explain how one can like one's own piece 8 times?
Why do stupid people not know they are stupid? 
Yep - you're right there!
Better to be stupid than rude.
But no excuse for being both.
Stone-Eater Added Nov 9, 2018 - 12:52pm
Why do stupid people not know they are stupid?  
 
This question does disqualify yourself, dear Smartanicus...
Spartacus Added Nov 9, 2018 - 1:12pm
This question does disqualify yourself, dear Smartanicus...
 
No, the question does not disqualify me.  I make mistakes too.  However, I'm not stupid enough like opher to consistently write about problems in another country for which I am neither the creator nor a contributor to the solutions.  He misunderstands context and, as I have pointed out, does not understand American politics.  But yet he is too fucking stupid to verify his own words.
 
You know, I hadn't thought of "stone-eater" in this light before.  Has a ring like "knuckle-dragger".
TexasLynn Added Nov 9, 2018 - 1:19pm
"I see stupid people. Walking around like regular folks, they only see what they want to see. They don't know they're stupid." -- TexasLynn
George N Romey Added Nov 9, 2018 - 1:27pm
So you think a government that consists of a bunch of privileged rich people squabbling over their sensitive egos is a good thing?  The smart ones are the people that didn't waste their time in partaking in this farce, alleged democracy.
opher goodwin Added Nov 9, 2018 - 2:24pm
Spartacus - you couldn't possible be a creator or contributor to solutions.
You still haven't answered my questions. Is that because you just mouth off and don't have any answers?
opher goodwin Added Nov 9, 2018 - 2:25pm
Tex - And I read the same on WB.
opher goodwin Added Nov 9, 2018 - 2:27pm
George - I think a government is better than no government and that some governments are better than others and that democracy makes them accountable and that people who take no interest and don't vote allow them to get away with anything.
I like to keep them accountable.
They're not brilliant but they are better than most alternatives - even bastards like Trump.
opher goodwin Added Nov 9, 2018 - 2:28pm
Stone - there's none so blind as the blind and they blindest of all are those who refuse to see what's in front of their eyes.
Stone-Eater Added Nov 9, 2018 - 2:38pm
Smartacus
 
I understand US politics very well. The feeling of being "exceptional" explains it. Just in line with Israel, the "chosen people". Means fuck the rest if they don't comply.
 
Don't get me wrong: I've got nothing against John Doe. It's not his fault that the media is crooked, the education is concentrated on "us only" and the rest of the world is seen as far away and strange, seen from the almost-island you live on.
 
You see, we Europeans live in the middle of different cultures and peoples where not every town has a McDonalds or a Pizza Hut to feel at home. We had to learn to arrange ourselves with the neighbors the hard way, and we fucked a lot up on that planet.
 
But we see that the US, as being like our "little kid" does the same mistakes as we did on the world stage centuries ago. And that - together with a dangerous military and economic liaison - makes us afraid.
 
We think the US is not PREDICTABLE anymore in its actions since .... no, not Trump. It started way before 9/11. which was the trigger for the agenda.
 
 
Stone-Eater Added Nov 9, 2018 - 2:46pm
Oph
 
When I compare you to William - I see an idealist talking to a realist who sees only the reality from the view of HIS country. 
 
It's not about left/right or other bullshit.
 
The US has a problem they would never admit: They have no history and no grown own culture. That's why they so desperately hail a flag or show patriotism. And that's also why the "god" thing is still so prevalent. Use any method to produce some kind of unity and nation feeling.
 
But it's artificial. The US reminds me of a little kid. The older brother says: Don't go up there you might fall down. The kid says: I'm not afraid, I will show you that I can do as you, even better.
 
But weapons and military bases will never be able to get respect and authority. Did you respect a teacher that slapped you because your exam wasn't good ? No. You looked for revenge.
Stone-Eater Added Nov 9, 2018 - 2:49pm
BTW Smartacus:
 
One thing encore: When the US starts to show a bit of empathy and humbleness towards others, the world will be a better place. Believe it or not.
George N Romey Added Nov 9, 2018 - 3:10pm
SEF for the ions there has been one nation that has tried to rule everyone else.  Again, it was the Brits for quite awhile after the US knocked them off their stool post WW2.  Churchill got outsmarted by the fledgling US Secret State using Truman as their stooge.  One day in the not too distant future the US will be shoved off as the world's wannabee leader.
 
People that run around and spout about "global government" have the intellectual capacity of a 5 year old dreaming of what Santa is going to put under the Christmas Tree.
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Nov 9, 2018 - 3:18pm
Opher 
 
"I think the result was about perfect."
 
So do I! The rabid left cannot get any tax increases through nor can they reverse policies set up by Trump. 
 
In the meantime let us put in more conservative judges, particularly in the 9th. 
Stone-Eater Added Nov 9, 2018 - 3:30pm
George
 
One day in the not too distant future the US will be shoved off as the world's wannabee leader.
 
Of course. But how many millions will be killed ? The US will NEVER accept to be No. 2 without bloodshed.
 
George N Romey Added Nov 9, 2018 - 3:44pm
SEF what do you think WW1 and WW2 were all about?  A changing of the guard.  If you are still alive when it happens again find a hut in Africa to hang out in until its over, one way or another.  I'm going to move to a remote state and simply live in a camper.  You can't control the power mavens of the world. 
Spartacus Added Nov 9, 2018 - 4:31pm
But we see that the US, as being like our "little kid" does the same mistakes as we did on the world stage centuries ago.
 
You can keep criticizing us but the reality is that Europe has not contributed to the world's culture in 40 years.  
Far too many deadbeats there being the 3rd party in all the important discussions, innovations, and battles.  No wonder the USA has to fight all your fights . . . if left to your own means, you guys would elect dictators faster than you had cut off your own nuts.
 
And you know what really sucks for me?  My own tax money has to go to keep protecting your deadbeat asses while you sit around and invent your next anti-US diatribe.  That's what really sucks for me.
I wish, 100%, that Trump makes due to his commitments and either makes Europe pay out of their butts or walks away from NATO and the UN.
 
We are like the parent who keeps their European retarded kid from rubbing its groins on the cheese grater or sticking a fork in its own eye.  Take us out of the picture there and you guys would blow yourself up.  
 
Can you say this, Stone?  Who's your daddy?  Ya, we are.  But I hope it changes fucking soon.
Flying Junior Added Nov 9, 2018 - 4:41pm
I don't mind being the richest, most powerful nation on Earth.  I suppose if there really isn't enough wealth to leave very much for our people, that's our problem.  There are certainly vast amounts of money in the hands the powerful.  It doesn't frost me to help protect our allies.  But I think Stone makes some good points.  What could it hurt to listen?

Spartacus Added Nov 9, 2018 - 4:52pm
What could it hurt to listen?
 
"The medicine would have been a welcomed relief if not for the poison in their eyes and clinched daggers hidden within their souls"
Ken Added Nov 9, 2018 - 6:08pm
I suppose nobody else noticed the error in the oph's statement there. 
 
Actually, If you read all the comments, I pointed it out right after he made it
 
both the Senate and Congress
 
The senate is part of congress
Ken Added Nov 9, 2018 - 6:10pm
I understand US politics very well. The feeling of being "exceptional" explains it.
 
That very line shows that you don't.  You clearly don't understand why the Americans are considered "exceptional" and it is nothing like Jews being God's "chosen people"
Ken Added Nov 9, 2018 - 6:17pm
They have no history and no grown own culture. That's why they so desperately hail a flag or show patriotism. And that's also why the "god" thing is still so prevalent.
 
That is simply ignorant hogwash.  we have 300+ years of history including 239 as an independent nation.  To say we have no culture is also simply ignorant.
opher goodwin Added Nov 9, 2018 - 7:03pm
Well explained Stone. Yes they are like that. Because of their lack of history and culture they have created a fiction out of the Wild West and still think that it is possible, with a population of 327 million, to go on living that way - without government. Madness. In order to get the fiction to work they have this obsession with flags, pledges and god.
Meanwhile they throw their weight around all over the world seeking respect (and get their backsides kicked).
opher goodwin Added Nov 9, 2018 - 7:05pm
George - better than the stupidity of a three year old huh?
opher goodwin Added Nov 9, 2018 - 7:06pm
rycK - glad we agree on something. Now let's see what dirt comes up about Trump and how frustrated he will get when he can't do anything except pass a health bill! Lol.
opher goodwin Added Nov 9, 2018 - 7:10pm
Spartacus - you display your ignorance of art, music, architecture, dance, literature, film, poetry and every other creative art if you think Europe hasn't contributed.
What has the US put forward? Disney, McDonalds, Burger King and KFC??
opher goodwin Added Nov 9, 2018 - 7:13pm
FJ - what is going to happen shortly when China is the big boy on the block?
I sure hope that the US concedes quietly.
opher goodwin Added Nov 9, 2018 - 7:18pm
Mogg - I don't expect perfection but there is nothing wrong in working towards it.
You defend the gross inequality of runaway capitalism as if it was good. It isn't. you simply gloss over the homeless under the flyovers, those dying because they haven't got healthcare, the ghettos with the drug problems and gangs, the massacres, racism crime and huge deprivation.
The richest nation on the planet concentrates all that wealth in the hands of a few and leaves millions living a life that is no different to the undeveloped countries.
That is what you are defending.
You call that good? It might be good for some but for many it is far from good.
opher goodwin Added Nov 9, 2018 - 7:19pm
Yes Ken - I think we got that.
opher goodwin Added Nov 9, 2018 - 7:20pm
Ken - there's nothing 'exceptional' about Americans. They are no better than anybody else - except with more arrogance. You prove it with all your writing.
opher goodwin Added Nov 9, 2018 - 7:22pm
Ken - you think 300 years is history? Wait until you've got a bit more under your belt before you talk about history and culture. For you the Wild West is culture.
Jeff Michka Added Nov 9, 2018 - 8:47pm
Yeah, but Kenny and his new bud, "brave" Fartacus aka Silly Willy Stockpot, think their rightist crap is literally the word of gawd.  I  seriously doubt ol Fartacus has ever done anything for his community or neighborhood, or ol Kenny.  They need to be "rugged individualists" like these clowns THINK they are.  For Kenny, 300 years is a big deal.  BY real comparison, nope.
Ken Added Nov 9, 2018 - 9:28pm
you think 300 years is history
 
3 minutes is history 3 hours as history.  Maybe we don't have thousands of years of history, but that doesn't mean we "have no history".  Your elite smugness is disgusting.  In our "brief history", we have kicked your ass twice and saved your ass twice.  You should be grateful to our "culture" and beneficence.
Ken Added Nov 9, 2018 - 9:30pm
Jeff, climatologists seem to think 100 years of history is a big deal, so 300 should be quite thorough.  I do quite a lot for my neighborhood and community, likely far more than you have ever done for yours, and I really don't give a damn what you think.  "Rugged Individualism" doesn't mean "every man for himself", but as a collectivist you would never understand basic concepts about individuality.
goldminor Added Nov 10, 2018 - 12:13am
@ stone eater ...you state above "...Today we don't want the fucking Mexicans and other dark-skinned crap. ...". The US takes in approximately 1 million legal immigrants per year of all colors and persuasions, plus allows additional immigrants per year through chain migration. That fact totally disproves your words. The US is the most diverse nation on this planet.
goldminor Added Nov 10, 2018 - 12:22am
@ opher ...what is your opinion of what the Chinese government did to protesters back during the Tiananmen Square incident? They had a special squad of young barbarian soldiers from the western provinces come in, and trap around 10,000 protesters in the streets. They then ran over all of them with tanks, and ground their bones to dust so that there was nothing left of any individual for burial by family members.
 
No, the US will never bow before China, and for good reason.
Flying Junior Added Nov 10, 2018 - 3:22am
Thank you for the feedback.  I really was just trying to say that it seems rather cheap on the part of the U.S. to piss and moan about the details of financing NATO.
 
FJ - what is going to happen shortly when China is the big boy on the block?
 
Well, at first we can just blame Trump.  It will be a big, fat, "I told you so!"  We won't notice everything that is going wrong.  Then the bottom will drop out.  Inflation will surge like the worst cases in South America and Europe during our hardest economic times ever.  The national debt will hit one hundred and fifty trillion dollars, more than ten times our anemic GDP.  When we can no longer service the debt, our creditors will call in the loans.  We will be forced to grant drilling and extraction rights to China, Japan, the EU, Brazil, Hong Kong, Singapore and Saudi Arabia just to pay the now soaring interest rates on our bad debt.  Eventually we will begin to make deals to forgive debt by offering Hawaii, California, Texas and New York as territories.  With new overlords, our people will be herded into ghettos.  Women and children will work in factories while able-bodied men will work in off-shore drilling, coal mines and other industries.
 
Don't let it happen!  Vote democratic.






rycK the JFK Democrat Added Nov 10, 2018 - 12:47pm
"Thank you for the feedback.  I really was just trying to say that it seems rather cheap on the part of the U.S. to piss and moan about the details of financing NATO."
 
Then let the weak sisters of the EU and close losers pay for their own way. We should care if the old USSR invades this place??
 
I think not; they deserve this for losing two world wars and ruining their systems of government. 
 
Let them rot. 
Jeffrey Kelly Added Nov 10, 2018 - 4:28pm
It really is too bad about the Senate, Opher.  But taking back the House was important.  Now the Democrats can force some of their legislative agenda to the forefront.  Even if it never gets past the Senate that’s fine.  Go on the defensive and force the Republicans to say no.
wsucram15 Added Nov 10, 2018 - 4:34pm
Other...hi..cannot say much.  Two of my systems are down and really just stopped in to say hello.  On the multiple articles on midterms,  I was  disappointed in everything but local races across US which will impact 2020. Also those that feel many of the women or outliers elected who were very unexpected are silly to think this is again a huge liberal conspiracy.  I think you will find that the next two years will be conflicted yes, but untrained and not really willing to put up with Trump and republicans. It should be interesting to say the least for Dems.  How next two years go is very important for either party. 
wsucram15 Added Nov 10, 2018 - 4:35pm
Sorry Opher..self correct
goldminor Added Nov 10, 2018 - 5:16pm
@ Texas Lynn ...Great comment. Thanks for the reminder. I have had similar thoughts in recent years. re: ..."These are the words from the Teacher (Solomon), a son of David and king of Jerusalem.".
opher goodwin Added Nov 10, 2018 - 5:52pm
Ken - we're talking culture - not history.
opher goodwin Added Nov 10, 2018 - 5:56pm
Gold - what the Chinese did In Tinamen Square was disgusting and was rightly condemned by all. What they are doing now with the Uighurs is also disgusting.
They are a totalitarian travesty of the first order.
However, they will shortly surpass the USA as the biggest economy and are extending their tentacles all over the planet.
Who knows what the future holds?
It seems America has squandered its power. It destroyed instead of building.
opher goodwin Added Nov 10, 2018 - 5:57pm
FJ - those tax cuts are sure myopic. Let's hope it doesn't get to that!
opher goodwin Added Nov 10, 2018 - 5:59pm
rycK - thanks. How short-sighted that is too.
Who'll be the next in line? Who'll be the next in line for heart ache? Who'll make the same mistakes? - The Kinks.
opher goodwin Added Nov 10, 2018 - 6:00pm
Jeffrey - you are right. Holding the House is a big deal. It puts the brakes on.
opher goodwin Added Nov 10, 2018 - 6:02pm
Jeanne - good to hear from you.
Yes - these next two years are crucial. America seems to be in a crisis. I think the Dems need to get their act together to pull it out.
goldminor Added Nov 10, 2018 - 11:00pm
@ opher ...glad to hear that, and I am in agreement with your words. You make  a strong case of why the US needs  to stop its infighting. Then again, it is highly likely that there are those pushing the divide just for the purpose of weakening the US.
Ken Added Nov 10, 2018 - 11:36pm
more and more young people come of age to register to vote.  One million young people every year!
 
Millenials were 12% of the voters.  That is the same percent they were the past 2 cycles.  There is no massive "youth movement"  It is a myth.
opher goodwin Added Nov 11, 2018 - 6:09am
Gold - we see outside interference from countries like Russia who are trying to divide and weaken. They are using cyber attacks and social media.
But the politicos are doing a good enough job of dividing without their help. The nation is being ripped apart.
opher goodwin Added Nov 11, 2018 - 6:10am
Ken - we'll see how much of a myth it is in the next elections.
Stone-Eater Added Nov 11, 2018 - 12:36pm
Oph
 
??
 
we see outside interference from countries like Russia who are trying to divide and weaken. They are using cyber attacks and social media.
 
Had a bad night's sleep ? ;-) Who controls the Internet ? And do you think that the USEU never did same ?
Stone-Eater Added Nov 11, 2018 - 12:40pm
Ken
 
I guess we could get along well if you would agree to a) quit the US$ hegemony and b) close all EXTERNAL military bases (along with Russia and China in a treaty) and c) change your political system to one where lobbies of any kind have no access - just the PEOPLE. WE THE PEOPLE. You remember ?
 
If you can't agree to that, you still hang on to the exceptionalist idea of the US which is nothing else than feeling superior - and that's close to NAZI stuff....
opher goodwin Added Nov 13, 2018 - 4:33am
Stone - there is much evidence for direct involvement of various Russian groups (and others) via social media to target specific voters and cause doubt and chaos as regards democracy. And yes the US and Brits are at it too.
opher goodwin Added Nov 13, 2018 - 4:34am
Ken - Stones right.
wsucram15 Added Nov 14, 2018 - 1:32pm
Opher and Stone..one bridge at a time.  Lets just get the President moving and working on legislation with the new House and Senate.  Its going to be difficult because you have a less moderate Senate and a Democratic House.
My concern on this is stalemate and then the typical Washington crap will start.  It is up to the new elects to push through the bullshit, but there are still too many old school money men up there. 
 
I had to laugh one of the new congresswomen was online and even with her new salary could not find a place she could afford to stay while in session. People dont think about things like that when they elect people.  Washington DC is ridiculous in cost.  She will figure it out though and become a money taker like the rest, if you dont, you wont make it.
 
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Nov 14, 2018 - 2:04pm
Stalemate is fine.
JP Added Nov 14, 2018 - 11:04pm
Opher- Well said. There is a small glimmer of hope at the end of this dark tunnel. There needs to emerge a candidate for president who will inspire with policy and message of a brighter future. 
Flying Junior Added Nov 15, 2018 - 1:15am
Trump has already stated that he will refuse to work with the democratic house if there are any investigations.
 
We all knew he wasn't sincere on the night of Tuesday November 6th.  No surprise.  Besides, Lindsey Graham isn't the majority Senate leader.  It's some crackpot republican obstructionist whose claim to fame is being the author of the McConnell Doctrine.  Between Trump and the Turtle, I'm not expecting miracles.  Besides, what could they possibly agree on when it comes to immigration?  I doubt even prison reform is an area of agreement.  Isn't the republican thing privatizing prisons for profit?  That's not going to work out.  Infrastructure?  That's a non-starter.  Trump is about reducing the tax base.  He wants infrastructure to magically pay for itself with toll roads.
 
Best we can do is just hope nothing goes terribly wrong the next two years.  And I'm an optimist!  lolz





Frosty Wooldridge Added Nov 15, 2018 - 11:49am
There's no question that immigration is at the top of my list for the most dangerous aspects of 21st century America.  We're being overrun and overwhelmed. We're being fragmented and fractured.  If don't stop all immigration, I see our country racing toward a second Civil War.  I see racial conflict daily, and it's getting worse as we import more incompatible cultures and people to our country.  That one muslim woman in MN wrapped a Palestinian flag around her when she won the House seat.  Good God!  She wants to install Sharia Law, along with the other Somali who had married her brother.  Muslims are nuts and suffer from a virus known as the Quran.  We're in a lot of trouble as there were 150 billboards in Arabic writing all over MN and MI.  They are slowly creeping into our governance. It's not going to end well for anyone.
 
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Nov 15, 2018 - 1:03pm
" I see our country racing toward a second Civil War. "
 
Makes sense as a future possibility. 
Jeffrey Kelly Added Nov 15, 2018 - 1:16pm
@Frosty Wooldridge:
”Muslims are nuts and suffer from a virus known as the Quran.”
 
Is that the same as Christians suffering from Bible babble?
 
I still don’t know what to say when I go in the gym and someone shouts at me “Praise the Lord!!”
 
That’s just asking for trouble if I reply.....
opher goodwin Added Nov 17, 2018 - 5:56am
Jeffrey - yes exactly the same. A virus deliberately inoculated into kids.
opher goodwin Added Nov 17, 2018 - 5:57am
rycK - this talk of a civil war is plain lunacy. It's all gung-ho stupidity. The reality is torture death, rubble, suffering and no winners.
opher goodwin Added Nov 17, 2018 - 5:59am
Frosty - all religion is a disgusting virus that you are injecting into your kids' minds. It should be banned.
opher goodwin Added Nov 17, 2018 - 6:00am
FJ - they are never going to work together. Trump is nuts.
opher goodwin Added Nov 17, 2018 - 6:00am
JP - I sure hope a suitable candidate emerges! I think they will!
opher goodwin Added Nov 17, 2018 - 6:01am
Jeanne - it's the same old game.