Radical feminists and toxic masculinity

I think it's easy to be confused because of the dishonest way that progressives argue - and third-wave feminism is little more than extreme progressivism in drag.

 

It sounds like "toxic masculinity" originally referred to men acting stereotypically macho - i.e., acting like jerks because they believed that's what their culture expected of them. Such behavior - and the cultures that encourage it - are rightly criticized. The Church has been criticizing such behavior for a long time.

 

But radical feminists corrupted the phrase "toxic masculinity" for their own purposes. The basis of their ideology is to deny the very reality of all differences between the sexes. They believe that men and women are completely interchangeable - or, at least, that they would be so in the absence of cultural constructions of gender that force men and women into distinct roles - or, at least, that we should pretend this is so in order to facilitate a socio-political agenda of radical equality. They brand the orthodox biological distinction between male and female "essentialism". They do not bother to criticize essentialism - they just take it as a self-evident axiom that essentialism is bad and use the term to dismiss anyone who disagrees with them, or anyone who dares to comply with traditional gender roles.

 

For these radical feminists, "toxic masculinity" and "toxic femininity" are shorthand slurs that can be directed against any instance of "essentialism" - i.e., men acting like men or women acting like women. They see it as the responsibility of every man or woman to defy gender roles at every turn - and anyone who chooses to conform to such gender roles is a counter-revolutionary - an enemy to be scorned, persecuted, and shunned.

Comments

Lindsay Wheeler Added Oct 12, 2018 - 9:25am
Feminism has always been the Atheist project and the Frankfurt School expanded and magnified it. It is about destroying masculinity. Effeminized males are slaves. The controlling elite don't want strong familes nor strong masculinized males. 
Dino Manalis Added Oct 12, 2018 - 9:39am
  Males and females should learn morals; values; and gentleness to become sexually attractive to the opposite gender.  Sex requires personal responsibility!
Eric Reports Added Oct 12, 2018 - 12:51pm
Men have testosterone, women estrogen.  These chemicals affect the way we think and do things.  
It's been proven feminists have less estrogen, betamales less testosterone.  Could be govt food contamination.
FacePalm Added Oct 12, 2018 - 4:04pm
Dino-
IME, "gentleness" is not a character trait that women are generally attracted to.
They may say that's what they want, but they're lying - both to themselves and to any man willing to listen to and maybe adopt that behavior, which in the long run will only get them despised.
FacePalm Added Oct 12, 2018 - 4:08pm
Eric-
There are many "estrogen mimickers" in today's world; atrazine, for example, is an ingredient in many pesticides used these days, and the runoff has been effecting changes in all male creatures, especially frogs, but others, as well, giving them female characteristics.
 
Tofu -  another estrogen mimicker, or virtually any soy product - has been creating "beta males" for a generation, now.
James E. Unekis Added Oct 12, 2018 - 4:44pm
There appears to be a possible connection between weed and increased estrogen in men.  Of course, opinions are all over the place.
 
Whatever happened to appreciating the differences between the sexes?
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Oct 12, 2018 - 4:48pm
"They brand the orthodox biological distinction between male and female "essentialism". They do not bother to criticize essentialism - they just take it as a self-evident axiom that essentialism is bad and use the term to dismiss anyone who disagrees with them, or anyone who dares to comply with traditional gender roles."
 
This is just another slogan word to add to the far leftist ideological tool box. The evidence of their phony divide and conquer is highlighted here but none may call this sexism by others. As usual, the theory here is unassailable by logic or reason. 
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Oct 12, 2018 - 4:54pm
FacePalm
 
"Tofu -  another estrogen mimicker, or virtually any soy product - has been creating "beta males" for a generation, now."
 
I thought that merely avoiding vegan food, drugs, excessive carbohydrates, eating red meat and disbelieving the phony ideological prattle recited in rote by political activists, generated Alpha males. 
 
That seemed to  be the pathway in my case. 
Logical Man Added Oct 12, 2018 - 6:18pm
I really don't care what's between people's legs and what they decide to, consensually,  do with it in private, nor what they choose to label themselves as.
I have friends who are straight, gay and know 2 who are doing the full on change over, which given the process and societal pressures associated, is not something anyone would do 'on a whim'.
This is another divide and conquer deal, just like race and religion, that is being screamed in everyone's face day after day by the MSM fulfilling their mandate to distract Joe Public from really important issues.
By the way, BPA, AKA bisphenol A is an estrogen mimic and is found in plastic food containers, bottled water (from the plastic bottle) and in the paper of thermally-printed receipts.
 
Jeff Michka Added Oct 12, 2018 - 7:09pm
But we rightists hate women, and everything about them, save when "we" demand sex from them.  Those women had better watch out!  Rightist men will just rape them if they refuse those rightists sex, because that's okay.  Afterall, rightist say over and over, women lie.  So nobody will believe them if "we" do rape them.
Arimathean Added Oct 12, 2018 - 9:06pm
Testosterone vs. estrogen is a red herring. The simple fact is that men's testosterone levels drop and estrogen levels rise with age. (Estrogen is nasty stuff, and men are not equipped to handle it, so it takes a toll on us. Women have progesterone, which counters the bad effects of estrogen.) Age-related changes in the balance of hormones do NOT cause men to transform into women as we age. My Y chromosome remains intact, no matter how much estrogen I am afflicted with.
Flying Junior Added Oct 13, 2018 - 2:21am
...  acting like jerks because they believed that's what their culture expected of them. Such behavior - and the cultures that encourage it - are rightly criticized. The Church has been criticizing such behavior for a long time.
 
Actually the new thing today, if you can believe Christian contributors such as Lindsay is a type of toxic masculinity that takes it's cue from some of the worst thoughts upon the relation between the sexes as recorded by St. Paul,
 
You know what I am talking about. Women are unfit for leadership positions within the Christian church.  Women are inferior and should rightly submit to the authority of the nearest available male.
 
Crazy fucks like Lindsay take it one step further.  Hardcore faux-Christians such as Lindsay who publicly denigrate females are now the new masculine hierarchy.  Faggy liberals who respect women are wimps.
 
I'm not kidding.  Stick around.
wsucram15 Added Oct 13, 2018 - 2:45am
This entire thing is hysterical. As if men had any insight into woman, most of them are too busy guarding their masculinity.
From- a liberal feminist who appreciates men who are not pigs.
Michael B. Added Oct 13, 2018 - 8:33am
Hmmm...I like what El Duce of The Mentors said when asked about his feelings toward feminists:
 
"First of all, I got the thumbscrews and the 'C' clamps for their tits. The first thing I'll do for the uptight feminists is unzip my zipper and give them a golden shower welcome. And then I'm going to remind them that their ass was made for my prick. And it's up to me to decide how they should be punished or impregnated or tormented and tortured."
 
Gloria, are you listening? LOL
Logical Man Added Oct 13, 2018 - 7:14pm
That's one fucked up concept.
Tamara Wilhite Added Oct 13, 2018 - 9:56pm
They want everyone to be equally interchangeable in society and bed. That only happens if you're not allowed to be anything but boringly androgynous, live within approved stereotypes and erase the past while ignoring biological reality.
I think it was "Forbidden Stories" that had a world where women had to hide while pregnant because it proved they weren't equal to men in every way.
Tamara Wilhite Added Oct 13, 2018 - 11:13pm
Excuse me, it is "Forbidden Thoughts".
Ward Tipton Added Oct 14, 2018 - 9:32am
I started getting lost in American society when I was deemed to be hateful for opening doors for women or saying Ma'am. 
Cullen Kehoe Added Oct 18, 2018 - 2:12pm
The irony I suppose is Christians are often high up the enemies list of feminists and progressives. But they've been teaching men to 'take it down a notch' for 2000 thousand years. 
 
Jesus said the meek shall inherit the earth. Love your enemies. Forgive others. The golden rule.
 
Paul commands men to love their wives sacrificially (as Christ loved the church). 
 
The only place where feminists have any case is where Paul basically says men should be the pastors, bishops, and deacons in the church. So women are excluded from the highest leadership positions in the church according to a strict reading of the New Testament. 
Cullen Kehoe Added Oct 18, 2018 - 2:16pm
...another obvious one, Christian men are taught to put a ring on it before making babies. I think we're finding that was a good prescription for a healthy society. One of the biggest influences toward a child having a successful life (as we often define it) is growing up in a 2 parent household. 
Ward Tipton Added Oct 18, 2018 - 9:37pm
The passage you are referring to is in Second Corinthians I believe, wherein it states that the woman shall not have dominion over the man. However, this is also indicative of the religious institutions of men ... the church attempting to have dominion over the Christ or the true head of the Church. 
 
In Ephesians %:21 it also clearly states that the man should love the woman as a weaker vessel, but each shall be in subjection to the other through Christ. (Remember John the Baptist bowing before the Christ when Christ advised against it because it was bringing worship and glory to the Christ and not to the father where it belongs? Or where Christ would humble himself or submit himself to serve the Apostles and the people?