These are the ten things I love.

These are the ten things I love.

 

The opposite of hate is love. They are like light and dark. The only thing that conquers hate is love. Revenge is an empty promise.

 

These are the ten most important things that I love:

 

Love itself - to be in love, to hold your children, grandchildren, pets and friends, is the greatest thing of all.

 

Beauty - to look at a sunset, a rock, a tree, a mountain, a flower, the stars, wild-life, the colours and shapes. It is wonderful beyond words.

 

Women and sex - they are not only beautiful, graceful, discerning, caring and sensual but they bring serenity, calm and intelligence with style. I generalise. Sex is also a delight of sharing, passion and pleasure.

 

Animals - I love them all apart from spiders. I am distressed on a daily basis when I think about the wanton destruction of habitat and slaughter of wild-life. It upsets me beyond measure.

 

Music - it moves the spirit and warms you to the core. It brings me alive. It has been a major part of my life.

 

Reading - it is the greatest invention of mankind. We can share the thoughts, stories and dreams of the greatest people who ever lived. There are few greater pleasures than to immerse yourself in a good book – into the mind and imagination of another person.

 

The natural world - what can be more impressive than the result of a few billion years of evolution, or 13.8 billion years the universes existence, the majesty of the heavens, the magnificence of geology? What could match that?

 

Writing and words - when humans created words they created a wealth of communication that enabled us to capture our thoughts and feelings. I love to ensnare my thoughts in symbols and share them. Communication is the essence of civilisation. Poetry is a distillation of the form.

 

Creativity - in all its forms – art, music, drama, poetry, opera, sculpture, writing, dance …. It is transcendental. It gives purpose to life, expression of being and a means of exploring truth and life. Creativity sets us apart from most other life.

 

Novelty and discovery - we are inquisitive and born with a natural desire to investigate the world we live in.

 

Friendship - we form friendships through chemical bonds that join us. We do not have to share the same tastes (but it helps). Friendship for me is something as strong as any emotion. With a friend you are fully at ease to share the contents of your mind, to argue and dissect; to learn about yourself and change your mind.

 

Food and drink - there are few things better than to share a meal with a bunch of loved ones, close friends and the pets at our feet, while watching a sunset, listening to good music in front of a roaring fire.

 

Sport - It is ritualised warfare without the violence and hatred. It is tribal. The thing I love most is the unpredictability. It keeps you on the edge of your seat with tension. I love to see the tactics, strategy and skill. It keeps me enthralled.

 

Photography - freezing the moment into a perfect shot that captures, frames and locks in the essence of its beauty.

 

When I retired I said I wanted to travel, write and read. I should have added – with the ones I love. That would make my life complete.

 

When you have digested my lists of ten (I never was any good at counting and it was hard limiting it to ten) you can clearly see why the whole fundamental basis of ISIS and other religious fanatics are the antithesis of everything I believe and stand for. They stand for fascism, indoctrination, intolerance and violence. They wish to impose their brain-washed superstition on everyone and destroy all vestiges of other cultures. If there is such a thing as evil then they epitomise it for me.

Comments

opher goodwin Added Oct 7, 2018 - 5:42am
Life is a wondrous thing. Sure beats death. Life is full of the things I love. These are the things worth fighting for.
Stone-Eater Added Oct 7, 2018 - 7:35am
1. Life
2. Travel
3. Music
4. My wife and kids
5. Health
6. Freedom of fears of poverty
7. Open-minded people
8. Warm climate and the sea
9. HOT food
10. Languages
 
...no specific order ;)
Doug Plumb Added Oct 7, 2018 - 8:43am
These are all too abstract to say anything.
 
No one likes the kind of life that crawls around the fresh food they have in cupboards.
  No one would want to travel to a true third world shithole without the protection of wealth and security.
  Most people do not like all kinds of music. Jazz to me is like someone dragging their fingernails across a blackboard, except very few pieces. My speakers have never played Country.
 ...need I go on?
 
Logical Man Added Oct 7, 2018 - 10:13am
Doug, you generally do!
opher goodwin Added Oct 7, 2018 - 10:25am
Stone - nice list. I like that one.
opher goodwin Added Oct 7, 2018 - 10:27am
No Doug - Please do not go on - your negativity exudes from every pore of your body. Please refrain. I prefer a bit of positivity.
Life is wondrous. Live it and be happy. There is no need to be a miserable git.
opher goodwin Added Oct 7, 2018 - 10:28am
Logical - I bet you have a list of wonder and awe, love and learning?
John Minehan Added Oct 7, 2018 - 10:45am
No disrespect but this popped into my mind when I read this.  To show you how my mind works, I remembered the lytic as "Bicycles, icicles . . . ." 
opher goodwin Added Oct 7, 2018 - 10:53am
Well thanks for that John. Not what popped into my mind at all though. Never heard of the Murmaids. A bit sugary sweet for my tastes.
John Minehan Added Oct 7, 2018 - 11:02am
You probably have.  You lived in the US, for long periods and I'm sure you had to pass through areas where they played Muzak.  It's unavoidable.
John Minehan Added Oct 7, 2018 - 11:02am
Unless, of course, you stayed out of elevators . . . .
The Burghal Hidage Added Oct 7, 2018 - 11:19am
There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count and those who can't :)
The Burghal Hidage Added Oct 7, 2018 - 11:20am
I'd be hard pressed to come up with 10.  Guess that says something about me :)
Leroy Added Oct 7, 2018 - 11:40am
The Sound of Music's My Favorite Things popped into my mind.
Katharine Otto Added Oct 7, 2018 - 11:50am
Opher,
Thank you for that.  It reminds me of a saying by my favorite philosopher, to wit:  "You don't stop war by hating war.  You stop war by loving peace."  And a Buddhist saying:  "You become what you hate."  I could turn that around to say "You become what you love."  The idea is you feed whatever you focus on.
 
Also, I notice you have found something to like about tribalism with team sports.  Aha!  
 
Maybe a good thing about ISIS is that they're showing everyone else what not to do.  We can hope that even they will eventually get tired of fighting.
 
Burghal,
Haha.  I can always count on you to add a note of levity.  Opher forgot to mention humor in his list of ten, which is one of the things I love.
Stone-Eater Added Oct 7, 2018 - 11:59am
Katharine
 
Of course you're right. A life without humor will automatically end in loneliness.
opher goodwin Added Oct 7, 2018 - 12:13pm
John - if I did it must have glided over me without attaching. 
opher goodwin Added Oct 7, 2018 - 12:14pm
Oh Burger - you sure hit upon an important one I missed off - humour is a big must. How could I have neglected that?
opher goodwin Added Oct 7, 2018 - 12:15pm
Leroy - you're such a romantic. I bet you had a crush on Julie Andrews.
opher goodwin Added Oct 7, 2018 - 12:20pm
Katharine - thanks for your participation. 
Two wonderful quotes - who is that philosopher?
Yes - it seems I did find something positive about tribalism (as long as it is not taken too far) after all.
Perhaps that is the only good thing about ISIS?
Burger was pretty quick to hone in on the missing one wasn't he?
opher goodwin Added Oct 7, 2018 - 12:21pm
Stone - how could we both have missed off such an essential?
Stone-Eater Added Oct 7, 2018 - 12:46pm
:O)
John Minehan Added Oct 7, 2018 - 3:33pm
"John - if I did it must have glided over me without attaching."
 
You were lucky.
 
In American slang, there is a slang term for such things (generally treacley ballads: "ear-worms." 
opher goodwin Added Oct 7, 2018 - 4:57pm
John - I have a number of earworms but that doesn't figure among them - yet.
Logical Man Added Oct 7, 2018 - 5:09pm
Oph, I just got back from enjoying one of my favourites - Riding trails on my mountain bike. Being out in nature biking and hiking helps keep me saneish and I'm fortunate to have some awesome places to choose from within a relatively short distance. I'm in Canada, but the weather rarely gets in the way, even winter. You can go to places in winter that are inaccessible the rest of the year, especially if you own a pair of snow shoes! There's no such thing as bad weather, just poor clothing choices.
I have many things I love.
My kids are at the top of the list.
Archery and bow making is big for me, along with making all the things you need to go with one - arrows, finger tabs, strings, stringers etc. Something very pleasing about making a bow and a dozen arrows and hearing the 'thunk' as they hit the target.
Cooking is something I enjoy doing as I'm a big fan of good food. A lot of Indian dishes always from fresh ground spices - I don't have a spice rack, I have a spice cupboard! I like to experiment and come up with my own recipes too.
Music - I don't play an instrument but I do listen a lot. There's usually at least a couple of decent pieces in just about any genre, but I grew up in the 60s and teen in the early 70s and that does colour my preferences somewhat.
Painting and calligraphy are things I've done for as long as I can remember. Photography too. I turned my parents' spare bedroom into a darkroom when I was about 13.
Reading - rarely novels but a lot of history and I'm a big science reader - almost any subject.
I want to know everything before I die. I know I won't manage it but I'm doing the best I can.
Humour is, as Katherine pointed out, essential.
 
opher goodwin Added Oct 7, 2018 - 5:18pm
Logical - thanks for that. I can see where you're coming from. The outdoors and nature is so important. I love animals. Archery sounds fun. I can understand that too. To have a passion is so important. I'm a bit older than you and the 60s looms large in terms of music and philosophy.
Good talking!
John Minehan Added Oct 7, 2018 - 5:53pm
"John - I have a number of earworms but that doesn't figure among them - yet."
 
Good.  In the States, avoid elevators . . . .
 
Music is a good thing . . .  but dew things are as annoying as a song that keeps going through your head . . . .
Doug Plumb Added Oct 7, 2018 - 6:05pm
Humour is not good when its directed at you. We think that pain is bad but its one thing that strengthens people more than anything else. Happiness and pleasure are not the same thing, the things that are good lead to happiness, truth and understanding lead to happiness. Pleasure is just momentary relief that more often than not does not lead to happiness.
Logical Man Added Oct 7, 2018 - 6:21pm
Doug, if you can't laugh at yourself every now and again you are the poorer for it
I often direct humour at myself, when I try to see 'me' from another's standpoint.
Just so we can all understand, can you tell us all what does lead to happiness, as you obviously have it all figured out.
 
 
Logical Man Added Oct 7, 2018 - 7:12pm
I forgot, for some reason, my enjoyment of 3D modelling and animation. Requires knowledge of many things to do reasonably well (I may be flattering myself), but I do enjoy the challenges.
Doug Plumb Added Oct 7, 2018 - 8:48pm
I enjoy mental as well as physical challenges, in swimming, math, philosophy and law. I am not always a thinker, but on WB I always try to be. I am critical of others ideas, I expect them to be critical of mine. Writing is an exercise in learning and thinking, and feedback is a critical part of that. I can take any amount of criticism in my thinking, and I think, defend it well.
This post mistakes pleasure for happiness, we forget that there is a difference.
 
re "Just so we can all understand, can you tell us all what does lead to happiness, as you obviously have it all figured out."
 
OK, you asked. I didn't figure this out but Kant did. The belief that in ourselves we do more good than harm to the world around us leads us to believe we are virtuous, the virtue does not lead to pleasure but the feeling that we deserve that happiness that comes our way.
Doug Plumb Added Oct 7, 2018 - 8:54pm
re "Doug, if you can't laugh at yourself every now and again you are the poorer for it"
  I admit when I do something stupid, but I never find it funny.
  I don't get challenged in my empirical environment where I live. I don't meet many really strong or really smart people, only a few. I live on the "wrong side of the tracks", my choice, my burden for taking the red pill. On here I hope to be challenged and to learn, in return I try to provide the same for others. I do not ever take offense to being called out on my words.
   I think WB serves a different purpose for others, the simple pleasure of writing and some good conversation, which is why we don't always see eye to eye. I do get the simple pleasures of human interaction often enough, and I have enough friends, to me, that is not what WB is for.
opher goodwin Added Oct 8, 2018 - 7:12am
John - I shall wear earplugs if I ever have to travel in elevators - though the music that they play while you are waiting for a phone to be answered is equally annoying.
Stephen Hunter Added Oct 8, 2018 - 11:17am
Opher, an inspiring list indeed! How could anyone not want this? Perhaps it is because when one does NOT have one of these things, it is easier to blame others, as opposed to looking inside for the answers.
John Minehan Added Oct 8, 2018 - 11:42am
"John - I shall wear earplugs if I ever have to travel in elevators - though the music that they play while you are waiting for a phone to be answered is equally annoying."
 
I'm not sure about Great Britain, but in the States, it appears to be designed to get you to hang up.
Michael B. Added Oct 8, 2018 - 1:44pm
Some Things I HATE:
 
1. Communist limeys.
2. Ugly Communist limeys (no other such thing).
3. Communist limeys who love animals.
4. Communist limeys who read (and believe) their own stupid fairy-doggerel bullshit.
5. Communist limeys who say they love the natural world but are all about destroying it.
6. Communist limey music lovers.
7. Self-righteous Communist limeys who are worse than the worse religious nuts in trying to impose their own idiotic views on others.
8. Idiotic pseudo-intellectual limeys who apparently haven't held the same job for more than a couple of months at a time, who can't count, and who are too lazy and stupid to try.
 
Gopher, if you hate ISIS so much, then why aren't you there fighting them?
opher goodwin Added Oct 8, 2018 - 1:50pm
Stephen - thanks - I'm glad they resonated with you. Though it seems some on the thread had other ideas. Michael has got himself all worked up in a lather! You'd think I was advocating nuking the USA.  I don't think anybody loves him. He's so full of pain.
opher goodwin Added Oct 8, 2018 - 1:51pm
John - you are probably right. I'd never thought of it that way. You certainly never ring up just to hear the wonderful sounds.
opher goodwin Added Oct 8, 2018 - 1:52pm
There there Michael - calm yourself down or you'll have a stroke. Things are never as bad as they seem.
Logical Man Added Oct 8, 2018 - 2:05pm
Michael, it seems like ALL you do is hate.
Can't be a very fulfilling existence.
opher goodwin Added Oct 8, 2018 - 6:25pm
Logical - naw - it's an act. He's really quite a fun guy.
A. Jones Added Oct 8, 2018 - 6:57pm
These are the ten things I love . . .
 
Interesting that "Tolerance" is not among those ten things. It shows.
 
It's your intolerance to different ideas and your intolerance to historical research that define you as a typical leftist.
 
You can cry, "I LOVE humanity!" all you want but we all know you're full of shit. Disingenuous fuckwits like you are the first ones to implement political prisons and firing squads against those with whom you disagree.
John Minehan Added Oct 8, 2018 - 7:03pm
Ah, Jones, humans are generally "[d]isingenuous fuckwits," what's not to love?
Jeff Michka Added Oct 8, 2018 - 7:04pm
Gee, Jones....I don't ever remember opher saying you should be taken out and shot, but if you say so, I'm sure.  Gotta get an airsickness bag ready, they are enshrining St Brett the Divine Rapist...again.  Orange bilge pumpings needs more "victory laps." 
A. Jones Added Oct 8, 2018 - 7:04pm
For the record, I'll also note that "Freedom" is not among the ten things Goodwin finds lovable.
 
Unless, of course, it's freedom for himself and not for others.
 
In order to love "freedom for others", one must also love "tolerance", which, as pointed out above, is noticeably absent from his preening, virtue-signaling list ("Look how wonderfully moral I am, everybody! Just look at all the things I love! Am I not wonderful? I certainly am in my own eyes. How about yours?")
Logical Man Added Oct 8, 2018 - 7:14pm
AJ, what do you love?
I'm guessing that your list is very short.
 
A. Jones Added Oct 8, 2018 - 7:47pm
I'm guessing that your list is very short.
 
I'm guessing your premise is, "The longer the list, the better."
 
But, of course, that's illogical. Hence, the hypocrisy of your moniker.
A. Jones Added Oct 8, 2018 - 7:51pm
humans are generally "[d]isingenuous fuckwits," what's not to love?
 
But we're not speaking of "generally"; we're speaking of a specific list from a specific person.
 
You do grasp the difference, I hope, between the "general" and the "specific"?
John Minehan Added Oct 8, 2018 - 8:06pm
"But we're not speaking of 'generally'; we're speaking of a specific list from a specific person.
 
You do grasp the difference, I hope, between the 'general' and the 'specific'?
 
Hey, Opher, look at the bright side, as a scientist, I;m sure you are flattered to be considered a "representative sample."
A. Jones Added Oct 8, 2018 - 8:21pm
as a scientist, I;m sure you are flattered to be considered a "representative sample."
 
1) A specific case need not be a representative sample. I don't know where you got that idea from but it's wrong.
 
2) Your sentence construction is faulty. To wit:
 
". . . as a scientist, I'm sure you are flattered . . ."
 
The apposition of "scientist" and "I'm" in the sentence indicates that you, John Minehan, are the scientist. However, since Goodwin has always maintained that he is the scientist (based on his insistence that he used to teach biology to high school students), I think what you meant to write was the following:
 
". . . I'm sure that as a scientist, you must be flattered . . ."
 
Or perhaps,
 
". . . I'm sure that you, as a scientist, must be flattered . . ."
 
You have to watch those appositives, Minehan, Esq.
A. Jones Added Oct 8, 2018 - 8:39pm
Goodwin's post is moronic. It's like a bimbo contestant for Miss America talking about what she likes: "Um, I love hot showers and washing with lavender soap!" OK. But so fucking what.
 
Here's a better list:
 
"My Favorite Things"
(Sung by Julie Andrews in "The Sound of Music")
 
Raindrops on roses
And whiskers on kittens
Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens
Brown paper packages tied up with strings
These are a few of my favorite things
 
Cream-colored ponies and crisp apple strudels
Doorbells and sleigh bells
And schnitzel with noodles
Wild geese that fly with the moon on their wings
These are a few of my favorite things
 
Girls in white dresses with blue satin sashes
Snowflakes that stay on my nose and eyelashes
Silver-white winters that melt into springs
These are a few of my favorite things
 
When the dog bites
When the bee stings
When I'm feeling sad
I simply remember my favorite things
And then I don't feel so bad
opher goodwin Added Oct 9, 2018 - 4:45am
Alex Jones - your keen observations - erudite and lucid as always. It is pleasure a pleasure to read such a positive outlook on life coming from someone who always works for the betterment of others. It's a joy to the heart.
opher goodwin Added Oct 9, 2018 - 4:46am
Alex Jones - I have uncovered your list of favourite things:
1. Self
2. Self
3. Self
4. Self
opher goodwin Added Oct 9, 2018 - 4:49am
Alex - yes I do greatly value tolerance and freedom, also empathy, respect, responsibility, honesty, caring, compassion and a host of other things that would all be foreign to your ears. But I didn't interpret my post as an exhaustive list - just a soundbite.
Thanks for bringing them to my attention - much appreciated.
opher goodwin Added Oct 9, 2018 - 4:51am
Alex - BTW - I do not think too much to your taste in music or lyrics. I much prefer Dead Kennedys:
Punk ain't no religious cult
Punk means thinking for yourself
You ain't hardcore 'cause you spike your hair
When a jock still lives inside your head
Nazi punks
Nazi punks
Nazi punks, fuck off!
Nazi punks
Nazi punks
Nazi punks, fuck off!
If you've come to fight, get outta here
You ain't no better than the bouncers
We ain't trying to be police
When you ape the cops it ain't anarchy
Nazi punks
Nazi punks
Nazi punks, fuck off!
Nazi punks
Nazi punks
Nazi punks, fuck off!
opher goodwin Added Oct 9, 2018 - 4:52am
Logical - I just posted Alex's list. It does at least have 4 entries.
opher goodwin Added Oct 9, 2018 - 4:53am
John - as regards fuckwits it is so kind for people to amply illustrate the point don't you think?
opher goodwin Added Oct 9, 2018 - 4:55am
Jeff - Alex 'never posts a thing' Jones is a hoot isn't he? I wouldn't bother shooting him.
As for the orange buffoon - it looks like he's going down big-time in the midterms. He's getting desperate.
opher goodwin Added Oct 9, 2018 - 6:57am
Intelligence might be a good thing to wish for - particularly in some!
 
Eric Reports Added Oct 9, 2018 - 3:36pm
What about God?
opher goodwin Added Oct 9, 2018 - 5:39pm
Eric - I don't deal with irrational fictions peddled by ancient nomadic Arab tribes.
A. Jones Added Oct 9, 2018 - 7:43pm
These are the ten things I love.
 
You're senile, Goodwin. You listed 14 things, not 10.
 
1. Love itself
2. Beauty
3. Women and sex (that's actually 2 separate items which you lumped together as one; the first are things, the second, an action)
4. Animals
5. Music
6. Reading
7. The natural world
8. Writing and words (that's actually 2 separate items: the first is an action or process, the second, physical things.
9. Creativity
10. Novelty and Discovery (2 separate things)
11. Friendship
12. Food and Drink (2 separate things)
13. Sport
14. Photography (redundant with #9, Creativity, which you claimed you love "in all its forms").
 
I'll point out that #11, Friendship, is the only item listed that involves other people, and is not purely selfish on the part of Goodwin.
Logical Man Added Oct 9, 2018 - 7:46pm
Alex, sex usually involves another person, except in your case.
 
A. Jones Added Oct 9, 2018 - 8:45pm
Alex, sex usually involves another person
 
Goodwin was clear about point #3 above: it's his own pleasure that counts, not the woman's.
Logical Man Added Oct 9, 2018 - 8:49pm
AJ, back to that battle of wits.
A. Jones Added Oct 9, 2018 - 11:40pm
The opposite of hate is love.
 
Actually, the opposite of hate is indifference.
A. Jones Added Oct 9, 2018 - 11:41pm
AJ, back to that battle of wits.
 
I never engage in a battle of wits with the unarmed.
opher goodwin Added Oct 10, 2018 - 6:45am
Alex - oh Wow!!  You can count - who'd have thought. That's something else you didn't get.
Now in terms of selfishness. Well a list of likes is inevitably going to be personal and self-centred by definition. But I reckon that if you take the trouble to think about it you'd understand that nearly all of them have a selfless element. Maybe not in your world.
opher goodwin Added Oct 10, 2018 - 6:47am
Alex - BTW - sex in my world is a mutually enjoyable pleasure where the enjoyment of my partner is as important as my own. But I suppose you don't get the same reaction, or need to give the same consideration, to a mirror.
opher goodwin Added Oct 10, 2018 - 6:48am
The opposite of hate is love. Indifference is the opposite of caring.
opher goodwin Added Oct 10, 2018 - 6:49am
Alex - you never engage in a battle of wits at all.
A. Jones Added Oct 10, 2018 - 6:56pm
Alex - oh Wow!!  You can count
 
And you can't. That was the point of the post.
 
I know this is a cognitive stretch for you, Goodwin, but if you title a post, "Ten Things I Love," you should actually list ten (10) things, and not fourteen.
 
Of course, you might have simply been using the word "ten" as a kind of loose synonym for "Many" or "Some" but we actually have other words for that: "Many" and "Some", for example. Why use "ten" unless you're actually going to list 10?
 
You're a dunce, Goodwin.
A. Jones Added Oct 10, 2018 - 7:03pm
Actually, by counting the separate items Goodwin carelessly lumped together, there are 17 things he loves; not fourteen and not ten.
 
I omitted "Photography" as number 18 because it's obviously redundant with what Goodwin had in mind with "Creativity".
 
1. Love
2. Beauty
3. Women
4. Sex
5. Animals
6. Music
7. Reading
8. The natural world
9. Writing
10. Words
11. Creativity
12. Novelty
13. Discovery
14. Friendship
15. Food
16. Drink
17. Sport
wsucram15 Added Oct 11, 2018 - 1:53am
My list is a combo of yours and SEF's
My family first and foremost.
My friends, the ones that count. Especially those that pushed me and stood by me through everything w/o question.
Music- dont even know how to express this except to say, it was a huge part of my life.
Freedom to make those choices.
Life
Love because of all of the above.
Knowledge and the ability to gain more.
The human body and its wonders
The earth and its wonders.
I guess the Arts..It helps me appreciate everything you can imagine because there are no boundaries, unless you set them.
 
opher goodwin Added Oct 11, 2018 - 5:13am
Alex - silly boy. You obviously don't get British humour.
opher goodwin Added Oct 11, 2018 - 5:18am
Aaah Jeanne - thank you for a sensible response and a worthy list. It is good to evaluate one's philosophy and priorities from time to time and dwell on the richness of experience and positive joys of life. It is reaffirming.
As Kurt Vonnegut said: “If this isn’t nice, I don’t know what is.”
Make sure you only have ten though or you'll annoy Alex and set him off.
Leroy Added Oct 11, 2018 - 8:39am
You're a funny guy, A. Jones.
opher goodwin Added Oct 11, 2018 - 9:19am
Leroy - well at least funny in the head.
Spartacus Added Oct 11, 2018 - 10:24am
Opher, you left off two
 
** Criticizing USA while your own country devolves into a political shithole. 
Who has the arrogance to do this?  Answer:  A British fuckwad.
 
** Race-baiting Americans. 
But then again, that is what a racist would do following a skin-tone-porn cult.
opher goodwin Added Oct 11, 2018 - 3:05pm
Spartacus - you also missed off dissing people with only half a brain cell! It must be lonely in there!
wsucram15 Added Oct 11, 2018 - 6:24pm
Spartacus...now that made me laugh. Are you seriously comparing yourself to a gladiator who fought against Rome? I think aside from Trump..now I have heard everything.   This will be entertaining.
Logical Man Added Oct 11, 2018 - 8:17pm
Does everything have to devolve into politics and/or religion, or can we try philosophy and free thought every now and again?
Leroy Added Oct 11, 2018 - 8:27pm
WSU, I think that he is mocking Cory Booker.  I am tempted to change mine to "No. I'm Spartacus".  Maybe we should all do it.  What did we ever do to deserve such representation?  And, to think that he wants to be president...
James Travil Added Oct 11, 2018 - 10:49pm
My list would be
1. My family
2. Sex with my two ladies
3. My friends
4. My health
5. Good food- especially hot food
6. Marijuana
7. Photography and beauty
8. The natural world
9. Good music
10. Good entertainment
Also not in any particular order 
Spartacus Added Oct 11, 2018 - 11:18pm
This will be entertaining.
 
You are easily entertained. 
Bill H. Added Oct 11, 2018 - 11:22pm
Opher-
Great list, and most of what I also enjoy.
Funny, in that I did not expect certain WB people to comment here, but the ones who I didn't expect that did were (as expected) totally negative and defensive.
Life must be a real bitch for these people. I actually feel sorry for them.
Yes, I have friends who identify themselves as "conservatives", and it seems that virtually all of them are constantly bitching and complaining about much in life. It also seems that their "problems" are always everyone else's fault. I spent a good part of last week fishing with 3 of them, and the bitching and complaining only stopped when they caught a fish.
Then it started all over again.
Spartacus Added Oct 11, 2018 - 11:41pm
I think that he is mocking Cory Booker.
 
I tried to change my picture to this, but WB didn't allow it.
Mark Hunter Added Oct 12, 2018 - 3:06am
That's a wonderful list, opher. Although I'm not a sport fan, nothing else needs be added to it, except chocolate (which deserves a category of its own).
opher goodwin Added Oct 12, 2018 - 7:48am
Jeanne - he's a gladiator fighting for Rome I think.
opher goodwin Added Oct 12, 2018 - 7:49am
Log - I've tried that a number of times. Philosophy does not seem to sit easy with some folks.
opher goodwin Added Oct 12, 2018 - 7:49am
Leroy - No I'm Spartacus!
opher goodwin Added Oct 12, 2018 - 7:50am
James - great list. I can see how preference would change with mood and setting.
opher goodwin Added Oct 12, 2018 - 7:53am
Bill - there is so much in life to delight in but it seems there are certain people who just like to destroy not build. They can't resist trying to pull things down. I know what you mean about the bitching. They make everything into a war.
Where is the intelligence?
opher goodwin Added Oct 12, 2018 - 7:54am
Mark - thanks Mark. I hope you are doing well after your loss?
Yes chocolate - and ice-cream. Probably alcohol too.
Mark Hunter Added Oct 12, 2018 - 9:06am
I’m doing better, thanks.
opher goodwin Added Oct 12, 2018 - 9:30am
All the best to you Mark. difficult times.
Leroy Added Oct 12, 2018 - 10:49am
"Funny, in that I did not expect certain WB people to comment here, but the ones who I didn't expect that did were (as expected) totally negative and defensive."
 
I don't think that I have been negative.  I did get a perverse pleasure in seeing A. Jones needle Opher on details.  No doubt A. Jones is a precise, detail-oriented person.  He is wired differently than Opher, who is more of an emotional person, in my estimation.
 
I am not wired that way either.  I could never provide such a list.  I am a different man than I was yesterday and will be tomorrow.  My wife might question why I put mustard on my hotdog assuming that I always put ketchup.  Sometimes I put both.  Sometimes I put chilli.  My answer is always, "Variety is the spice of life."
 
The only items that I could apply "love" to would be family and perhaps a limited set of close friends.  I suppose that I could accept "love" as an exaggeration of "like". 
 
I appreciate beauty and art.  I admire creativity in others.  I appreciate the opportunity to be creative at work. I have enjoyed photography.  I don't enjoy watching sports in general, but I frequently enjoy a good matchup.  I get a perverse pleasure in causing liberals to become unhinged.  There are too many things that I enjoy to ever create a definitive list.  It depends on the environment and the moment in time.  I suppose I might even appreciate death when the time comes.
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Oct 12, 2018 - 5:10pm
What I love is to watch the far left writhe in agony when their phony ideologies drive them toward terminal pathologies. This is similar to copulating with coprolites. 
Logical Man Added Oct 12, 2018 - 5:32pm
rycK, you prove that there are more horses arses in the world than there are horses.
Do you run your whole life around the false left/right dichotomy?
John Minehan Added Oct 12, 2018 - 6:12pm
Mr. Travil, do you mean "hot food" as in cooked or as in spicy?
 
Kind of an odd question, but I can think of a very spicy food that is served cold---Kimche (which is a favorite of mine).  
Logical Man Added Oct 12, 2018 - 6:35pm
I'm a huge fan of Indian cuisine. I cook dishes from every part of the sub-continent. Some are fiery hot, some just have a gentle warmth, but almost all have a real depth of flavour.
A good Jerk sauce is a thing of beauty, but can definitely make you sweat!
I always grind from whole spices just before I use them and work with fresh ingredients.
I don't have a spice rack, I have a 2-shelf, 2-door spice cupboard and a coffee grinder exclusively for spices.
It's worth the effort!
Not a fan of kimchi.
 
opher goodwin Added Oct 12, 2018 - 7:10pm
Log - yes rycK does - he's a one track horses arse.
opher goodwin Added Oct 12, 2018 - 7:11pm
John - I have never heard of Kimche. What is it?
opher goodwin Added Oct 12, 2018 - 7:12pm
Log - I love Indian cuisine too but not too spicy. I think it's an acquired taste that you build up to.
opher goodwin Added Oct 12, 2018 - 7:15pm
rycK - What I love is to watch the far left writhe in agony when their phony ideologies drive them toward terminal pathologies. This is similar to copulating with coprolites
Does that actually make sense? Sounds like verbal diarrhoea to me - pretending to something it isn't.
A. Jones Added Oct 13, 2018 - 12:30am
"Oh, the buzzin' of the bees in the cigarette trees
The soda water fountain
Where the lemonade springs and the bluebird sings
In that Big Rock Candy Mountain
 
On a summer day in the month of May
A burly bum came a hiking
Down a shady lane through the sugar cane
He was looking for his liking

As he strolled along he sang a song of the land of milk and honey
Where a bum can stay for many a day
And he won't need any money
 
Oh, the buzzin' of the bees in the cigarette trees
The soda water fountain
Where the lemonade springs and the bluebird sings
In that Big Rock Candy Mountain
In the Big Rock Candy Mountain
The cops have wooden legs
The bulldogs all have rubber teeth
And the hens lay soft-boiled eggs
The farmers' trees are full of fruit
The barns are full of hay
I want to go where there ain't no snow
Where the sleet don't fall and the wind don't blow"
 
Burl Ives had it right in the above song:
 
1. Buzzing Bees
2. Cigarette trees
3. Seltzer fountains
4. Lemonade Springs
5. Singing Bluebirds
6. Cops with wooden legs
7. Bulldogs with rubber teeth
8. Hens that lay soft-boiled eggs
9. Fully laden fruit trees (ripe for the picking)
10. Barns filled with hay (for free sleeping)
11. No snow
12. No wind
 
There! Those 12 things are the 10 things I like.
Mark Hunter Added Oct 13, 2018 - 12:38am
They had me at "no snow".
opher goodwin Added Oct 13, 2018 - 5:06am
Alex - well I'm glad you and Burl include the buzzing bees and bluebirds - they're getting in short supply.
opher goodwin Added Oct 13, 2018 - 5:08am
Mark - I occasionally enjoy snow for a short while. When I was running my school it was a nightmare - numerous injuries, excitable kids, cold, frozen bodies unable to learn and always an ambulance or two.
Logical Man Added Oct 13, 2018 - 4:13pm
Snow's OK once you get used to it. Given I moved to Canada I was pretty much forced to. Hiking in winter, provided you are dressed and equipped for it is very enjoyable. Snow shoes make you walk in a way that can find muscles you didn't know you had, though! There are a few creeks close to me that I just walk along in winter when they are frozen over. I get to see the place from a different angle.
 
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Oct 13, 2018 - 4:33pm
Opher
 
"rycK - What I love is to watch the far left writhe in agony when their phony ideologies drive them toward terminal pathologies. This is similar to copulating with coprolites
 

[Opher] Does that actually make sense? Sounds like verbal diarrhoea [sic]to me - pretending to something it isn't."
 
There are problems with that sentence.
 
 
This reply reads like you do not have the cognitive skills to decipher what I wrote. perhaps your neurons are growing old like coprolites--solid, hardened and useless. 
opher goodwin Added Oct 13, 2018 - 7:11pm
Log - I can understand that. I just don't like cold. I like tropical weather - T-shirt time!
opher goodwin Added Oct 13, 2018 - 7:12pm
rycK - no - it just sounded like pretentious bullshit to me.
Logical Man Added Oct 13, 2018 - 9:02pm
Or maybe, rycK you are just spouting bullshit.
On second thoughts, I'll retract the 'maybe'
I'm just basing this off previous comments.
BTW, you'll find that 'diarrhoea' is the correct spelling, assuming you are speaking English. I guess you are too full of it to know that.
 
Mark Hunter Added Oct 14, 2018 - 9:17am
I suppose I'd be okay with snow if it lasted two weeks and was followed by spring. But after all these years of northern Indiana winters, I'm pretty much over it ... and I never got used to them.
opher goodwin Added Oct 14, 2018 - 12:53pm
Mark - I like snow for messing about in - sledging is good. But after a day I've had enough and it just makes life more difficult and dangerous. I don't like the cold!
Logical Man Added Oct 14, 2018 - 1:07pm
I do prefer warm, but given where I live, I have two choices - gripe about the cold weather and stay inside or embrace the good bits and dress appropriately.
No such thing as bad weather, just poor clothing choices!
 
opher goodwin Added Oct 14, 2018 - 3:11pm
Log - yes, we have to make the very best of what we have.
A. Jones Added Oct 14, 2018 - 5:06pm
well I'm glad you and Burl include the buzzing bees and bluebirds - they're getting in short supply.
 
Wrong, again, O Great Know-Nothing.
 
Several bee species native to Hawaii only have been put on the "endangered" list by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and are now protected by federal law; but bees as a whole are NOT on that list and are NOT experiencing shrinking populations. So your statement regarding bees was a half-truth, at best.
 
In the U.S., the Mountain Bluebird and the Eastern Bluebird are both experiencing increasing populations completely on their own. They are not on the endangered list and are not protected by federal law.
 
As usual, you little scaremongering bullshitter, you don't know what you're talking about. Here's a little friendly advice:
 
DO SOME HOMEWORK BEFORE POSTING STUPIDITIES.
 
(You're welcome.)
Logical Man Added Oct 14, 2018 - 5:18pm
Interesting that Europe has banned nicotinoids that are a huge threat to bees, as is glyphosate, which should never have been approved (shows the power of money over politicians).
But I guess European scientists don't do their homework.
 
A. Jones Added Oct 14, 2018 - 6:48pm
Interesting that Europe has banned nicotinoids that are a huge threat to bees,
 
Actually, no, there is no conclusive evidence that nicotinoid pesticides are a "huge threat" to bees IN THE FIELD, as opposed to IN THE LABORATORY (where the majority of European research was conducted).
 
So you're right: European scientists -- being mainly in the employ of their welfare-state governments -- do not do their homework. (You don't either, by the way.) They are not paid to do their homework, and nor is there any incentive on their part to do their homework. They conclude whatever their governments want them to conclude; and government regulators (just like our FDA, for example) get big, fat, gold stars pasted on their foreheads for banning ANYTHING that appears to have any kind of injurious effect to a particular "politically correct" species of plant, animal, or insect.
 
See this article from Public Library of Science:
 
From the ABSTRACT:
 
"Most of the 216 primary research studies were conducted in Europe or North America (82%), involved the neonicotinoid imidacloprid (78%), and concerned the western honey bee Apis mellifera (75%). Thus, little seems to be known about neonicotinoids and bees in areas outside Europe and North America. Furthermore, because there is considerable variation in ecological traits among bee taxa, studies on honey bees are not likely to fully predict impacts of neonicotinoids on other species. Studies on crops were dominated by seed-treated maize, oilseed rape (canola) and sunflower, whereas less is known about potential side effects on bees from the use of other application methods on insect pollinated fruit and vegetable crops, or on lawns and ornamental plants. Laboratory approaches were most common, and we suggest that their capability to infer real-world consequences are improved when combined with information from field studies about realistic exposures to neonicotinoids. Studies using field approaches often examined only bee exposure to neonicotinoids and more field studies are needed that measure impacts of exposure. Most studies measured effects on individual bees. We suggest that effects on the individual bee should be linked to both mechanisms at the sub-individual level and also to the consequences for the colony and wider bee populations. As bees are increasingly facing multiple interacting pressures future research needs to clarify the role of neonicotinoids in relative to other drivers of bee declines."
 
From the CONCLUSION:
 
"Based on our systematic literature review we conclude that despite considerable research efforts, there are still significant knowledge gaps concerning the impacts of neonicotinoids on bees. We found that studies were not representative of the diverse and global use of neonicotinoids that are applied in a multitude of insect pollinated crops and non-crop plants that are often visited by multiple bee species. Additionally, we found opportunities for methodological improvements. Laboratory approaches were most common, and we suggest that their capability to infer real-world consequences can be improved by using information from field studies to inform more field realistic exposures to neonicotinoids. Many of the studies with field approaches examined only potential exposure to neonicotinoids, and we suggest that more field studies should measure bee responses to these chemicals. While the majority of studies measured pesticide effects on individual bees, there is a need for more studies that link effects at the individual to mechanisms at the sub-individual level, and also to consequences for colonies and populations. Current research momentum, and recent rapid increases in the number of studies being published on this topic, provide opportunities to provide a more comprehensive understanding of how neonicotinoids are affecting bees."
 
* * *
 
[Help! Help! The sky is falling! We must ban this and we must ban that! We must ban anything that has any level of SUSPECTED injurious effect on any species whatsoever, even if the evidence is scant and constrained to artificial laboratory conditions that don't adequately reflect real-world situations. We need STRONG government to ban things that evil private institutions are foisting on a helpless, ignorant public. Remember this paraphrase of Napoleon-the-Pig from Orwell's "Animal Farm":
 
Government Good!
Private Institutions Bad!
 
That's all you need to know. Repeat it often, like a mantra. No thinking required.]
Logical Man Added Oct 14, 2018 - 6:53pm
If you've read any of my articles/responses you know that I have no love for government. Private Institutions with huge amounts of financial power are just as dangerous.
Bees are dying and at least a one in every 3 mouthfuls of food rely on them, but hey, let's not try to do anything about it, lets just starve.
Good plan.
A. Jones Added Oct 14, 2018 - 8:01pm
Bees are dying
 
Correction: Some bees are dying; not all bees.
 
In the U.S., only some species of bees in Hawaii are protected by federal law; others are not (because their populations are not observed to be in decline).
 
But please continue repeating your thought-free mantra ("Bees are dying!" "Bees are dying!" "Bees are dying!") and remember: do NOT do any actual homework on this issue. That might require changing your mantra.
Logical Man Added Oct 15, 2018 - 8:12am
Having done a reasonable amount, one of the places you will find reports that bee populations are increasing is a website run by Syngenta - funnily enough they make pesticides - and even there they are careful to only use an increase in the number of managed bee hives in US and completely avoid mentioning wild populations.
There has been an increase in managed hives partly due to people who care to try to make a difference.
opher goodwin Added Oct 15, 2018 - 10:20am
Alex - you are a cretin. I live in the UK where honey bees are an endangered species due to spraying with neonicotinoids. Which is why they are banned.
opher goodwin Added Oct 15, 2018 - 10:22am
Log - you will never get Alex to understand anything. He just likes to bomb and never post. I don't know why Autumn allows him.
A. Jones Added Oct 16, 2018 - 5:30am
in the UK where honey bees are an endangered species due to spraying with neonicotinoids.
 
Wrong. The honey bees are dying because of viruses caused by mites.
 
"The deadly link between the worldwide collapse of honeybee colonies and a bloodsucking parasite has been revealed by scientists. They have discovered that the mite has massively and permanently increased the global prevalence of a fatal bee virus.
 
The varroa mite's role means the virus is now one of the "most widely distributed and contagious insect viruses on the planet", the researchers warned. Furthermore, the new dominance of the killer virus poses an ongoing threat to colonies even after beekeepers have eradicated the mites from hives.
 
Varroa destructor has spread from Asia across the entire world over the past 50 years. It arrived in the UK in 1990 and has been implicated in the halving of bee numbers since then . . ."
 
See also this:
 
"Ban lifted on controversial 'neonic' pesticide
 
"An EU-wide moratorium was put in place after some studies showed the pesticide caused significant harm to bees.
But following a second emergency application by the National Farmers Union, two neonicotinoid pesticides can now be used for 120 days on about 5% of England's oilseed rape crop . . .
 
. . . Dr Hartfield from the NFU countered the suggestion that neonicotinoids have been shown to harm bees: "The majority of the research that has fuelled this debate has been based on artificial dosing studies. The big question in this area is, does this accurately reflect what happens to bees foraging in and around neonicotinoid crops? "We don't know, but the field studies haven't shown that they are causing population declines in pollinators."
 
And this:
 
"Bee Deaths Reversal: As Evidence Points Away From Neonics As Driver, Pressure Builds To Rethink Ban"
 
"However, while bees face challenges, the numbers simply don’t support the “beepocalypse” narrative nor identify neonics as the driver of die-offs. As Scientific American’s Francie Diep noted in a recent article sub-headlined “why colony collapse disorder is not that big a deal anymore,” North American honeybee colony numbers have been stable for years at about 2.5 million even as neonics usage became more widespread.
 
What’s the role of neonics in bee health?
 
A split has developed in the research community as to the potential link of neonics to bee deaths. Just this past week, entomologists at a New Orleans conference released details from a soon-to-be published field study that concluded that neonics may not be as harmful to bees as portrayed in the media because they are not being expressed in plant pollen or the plant's reproductive parts at levels that are high enough to hurt the bees.
 
By far the biggest culprit [of bee deaths] —the report called it “the single most detrimental pest of honeybees”—was identified as the parasitic mite varroa destructor—the likely cause of the 2004 die-off."
 
And this:
 
"Neonicotinoids Barely Found in Pollen of Seed-treated Plants"
 
"Now new research from entomologists in the southeastern U.S. shows that neonics may not be as harmful to bees as they are being portrayed in the media because they are not being expressed in plant pollen or reproductive parts at levels that are high enough to hurt the bees — if at all — as this video with Dr. Gus Lorenz, an extension entomologist with the University of Arkansas, explains . . ."
 
* * * 
 
[Video link at website]
 
So much for honeybees disappearing, and so much for neon's being the culprit.
A. Jones Added Oct 16, 2018 - 5:42am
Here are my 10 favorite things:
 
1. Hot showers;
2. Clean linen;
3. Ramen noodles;
4. Ripe avocadoes;
5. Dried porcini mushrooms;
6. Recordings of Jascha Heifetz;
7. English grammar books from the early 19th century;
8. Penhaligon's of London cologne (especially "Juniper Sling");
9. Down comforters;
10. Italian double-breasted suits;
11. Paul Evans hand-crafted shoes;
12. Handmade silk ties from Japan;
13. Feather double-edge razor blades;
14; Ezekiel bread;
15. "Yellow Bourbon" Single Varietal Brazilian coffee.
 
There! The above 15 items are my 10 favorite things.
 
I also like 5 additional things, which would bring the total up from 10 to 11.
Logical Man Added Oct 16, 2018 - 6:03pm
Thank you for your usual carefully researched and well thought out comment, AJ