Well it was bound to happen our dear fumble bumble Vice President DencePence in protest at the opening of the Winter Olympic Games in South Korea “took a butt” rather than a knee to protest. And HE’S a very white guy!


And really after all that sturm and drang about the NLF players with that knee thing and here is DencePence “taking a butt” to protest at a sports event.


And sure, it takes an ass to “take a butt”. No question!



Wouldn’t it be just great if some South Korean Olympic owner would stand up and say, “you are fired you son of a bitch”!


But that won’t happen because Koreans are a polite people and a public outburst of that nature would ONLY be acted out by a “round-eyed barbarian”. Proper decorum is still practiced in Asia.


You see at the opening of the Olympic Games both the South and North Koreans entered the proceedings together. You know, as Koreans.


But for DencePence that was NOT ACCEPTABLE because he represents a two Korean world. And HE’S a very white guy!


So in PROTEST he “took a butt” and didn’t stand as others did out of respect for the teams.


“At the opening ceremonies on Friday, Pence sat stone-faced in his seat as Moon and North Korean officials stood together with much of the stadium to applaud their joint team of athletes. White House officials stressed that Pence had applauded only for the American team, but Asia experts said the vice president’s refusal to stand could be seen as disrespectful to the hosts.” (By ZEKE MILLER and MATTHEW PENNINGTON | Sat, February 10, 2018)


Now DencePence has been spending his time warning everyone that North Korea was attempting to, “hijack the message and imagery of the Olympic Games” and to promote dialogue between the North and South.


This dialogue, is “propaganda” from DencePense’s point of view. And we sure can’t have that, now can we?


And who is this WE?


Koreans or Americans.





Tubularsock Added Feb 13, 2018 - 10:39am
There is diplomacy, decorum and respect for your position and those you represent and then there is third grade play yard behavior.
For DencePence and “mother” they are just embarrassing to the United States of America on the World Stage. And it is cringe worthy!
Autumn Cote Added Feb 13, 2018 - 10:59am
Please note, it's against the rules to post articles here unless you comment on the work of others more frequently than you currently do.  
Tubularsock Added Feb 13, 2018 - 11:09am
Autumn in the last couple of weeks Tubularsock has commented at least six or eight times. Maybe more but I don't have time to go back and check.
I only comment if I have something to say about the subject and not just to fill space. Not sure what to do about that.
Autumn Cote Added Feb 13, 2018 - 11:14am
The last time you commented on an article written by someone else was February 11th.  As seen in the rules, that's not frequent enough.  
Tubularsock Added Feb 13, 2018 - 11:24am
I may be getting confused with response comments. And seem to spend a lot of time with them.
How do I trace back my open comments so I can track them?
Autumn Cote Added Feb 13, 2018 - 11:32am
If you click your name it will take you to your profile page.  From there, click the comments tab and that will display your comment history.  As always, many thanks for your participation with Writer Beat!
Tubularsock Added Feb 13, 2018 - 2:07pm
Thanks Autumn.
opher goodwin Added Feb 13, 2018 - 2:20pm
Tub - Hopefully North and South Korea are getting together to gang up on Trump!!
There's irony there! He will have solved the problem. Not in the way he hoped but, hey, solving is solving.
Pence insulted both of them and it is now inevitable that they will take action. Honour is at stake!
Tubularsock Added Feb 13, 2018 - 3:14pm
Yep. Honor is a slippery slope for sure but dueling at thirty paces with nuclear weapons may be a little too close for comfort.
Thanks for your insights, opher.
Tom C. Purcell Added Feb 13, 2018 - 3:39pm
I tend to agree with you, as much as I really don't want to.  Good post.
Tom C. Purcell Added Feb 13, 2018 - 3:40pm
(agree in principle with the article)
Tubularsock Added Feb 13, 2018 - 3:50pm
Tom, you know Tubularsock at time doesn't want to agree with Tubularsock either so Tubularsock knows how you feel.
However the world just keeps producing crazy shit. And at times it can leave one in the state of "awe" and a response of, "I can't believe this is happening" is all that can be said!
Thanks for taking the time to comment.
Tom C. Purcell Added Feb 13, 2018 - 4:19pm
Tube, your comments remind me that I saw news yesterday that some people took offense to the term, "Anglo-American", as racist.  Heh, can't say anything anymore, it's all racist.  
opher goodwin Added Feb 13, 2018 - 4:29pm
Perhaps we will see Pence accidentally slipping down one of those high slopes?? Accidents happen.
Dino Manalis Added Feb 13, 2018 - 4:32pm
We shouldn't provoke Pyongyang during the Olympics.  I understand South Koreans are dreaming of a reunited Korea and we should respect it, but North Korea seeks to threaten its neighbors with nuclear arms.  That's why it's up to Beijing to take action solely or jointly with America to turn the dream into a reality for all of us!
Even A Broken Clock Added Feb 13, 2018 - 6:49pm
Tube, your post is totally tubular. As we fire up the halfpipe of the Olympic celebration, let us remember that the renaissance of the Olympics was to encourage international cooperation, not to exacerbate existing conflicts. Therefore, an active attempt to not encourage cooperation would be found to be in contempt of the Olympic ideal, and the US is therefore fined:
2 gold medals
4 Silver medals
5 bronze medals
And is prohibited from making snide comments about the spirit of international competition until the end of these festivities.   
Tubularsock Added Feb 14, 2018 - 12:44am
Even A Broken Clock, you are such the enlightened diplomat. Tubularsock is impressed with your logical compromise in the face of dysfunction.
Keep your light saber dry! We need not an arc and a short of the light at this crucial moment. THE FORCE IS YOU!
Now grasshopper, take the pebble from my hand.
Tubularsock Added Feb 14, 2018 - 12:45am
Tom, thanks for your responses.
Yes, Tubularsock agrees if one puts things in racial, gender, or class terms then you pretty much ends any discussion at all because those terms are what is focused upon.
However, A fucking shit is a fucking shit and THAT crosses all racial, gender, and class lines!
And when it is true one can find common agreement.
Tubularsock Added Feb 14, 2018 - 12:46am
opher, the fun part would be if we could get it on film with “mother” pushing him.
Now THAT would trend!
Tubularsock Added Feb 14, 2018 - 12:47am
Dino, Tubularsock agrees but as I’ve indicated to you before China and Korea are NOT close friends.
Tubularsock would venture to say that the U.S. and China are closer to each other BUT who in their right mind would trust the United States!
Look at out history!
Thanks for your comment.
opher goodwin Added Feb 14, 2018 - 3:36am
Tub - Pence and mother doing a run down that half-pipe without a board. That would be a gas. Them doing a grab would be the best bit particularly during a backside rotation or a good boned bonk.
Stone-Eater Added Feb 14, 2018 - 8:22am
Mr. Pence seems to be a rather confused personality, I think. I guess he has problems making a difference between what he believes and what IS.
opher goodwin Added Feb 14, 2018 - 10:08am
Stone - he's a nutcase. Hope it's all good with you!
Tubularsock Added Feb 14, 2018 - 11:01am
opher, Tubularsock can’t resist --- wouldn’t a “half-pipe” leak “gas”?
Well maybe not for Shaun White.
Tubularsock Added Feb 14, 2018 - 11:02am
Stone, “RATHER confused personality”?
Are you working on your standup comedy show?
Bill Kamps Added Feb 14, 2018 - 11:34am
Pence was petty and stupid.  You dont have to agree with someone on everything to show some respect.   I have been to Catholic Churches with friends before, I am not a Catholic and the differences I have with that Church could fill a volume.  But I went  there, and by being in their place of worship I agreed to show some respect, as I did  when I visited Mosque. 
Just because you disagree with someone, you dont have to wear your asshole on your sleeve.
How far does Pence think we will get negotiating with the North Koreans if we cant treat them with respect?  they are supposed to trust us when we shit in their hat?
Tubularsock Added Feb 14, 2018 - 12:01pm
Bill, well said and Tubularsock couldn't agree more. Tubularsock is not a big fan of North Korea but if the idea is to talk with them then being rude to them doesn't seem to be a bright idea. And at the same time being rude to South Korea as well. Rather embarrassing.
However, if our goal is to CREATE a conflict then it is right on target.
We have to remember that North Korea is on the same neocon list as Iran and Iraq and "our" proposed goal is destruction.
Thanks for your insights.
Dave Volek Added Feb 14, 2018 - 12:32pm
I noticed that Tubularsock, who seems to be everywhere where the rich and powerful hang out, was not in the photo of Mr. Pence taking a butt cheek. What happened?
I'm starting to sense a conspiracy. Maybe it's time for another WB article.
Tubularsock Added Feb 14, 2018 - 1:03pm
Well Dave, if you noticed that Tubularsock was "outside" the frame.
Some would say that "too many asses together fills the barn" which may be true BUT in this case Tubularsock stayed above the fray for reasons of proper decorum.
But that sure doesn't stop a good old conspiracy theory now does it.
Eileen de Bruin Added Feb 14, 2018 - 2:26pm
Blimey, I have no idea what to say about this presentation of an affront to... to what, exactly?  What, is this a mis thought out public relations’ stunt or what?  in short: the point being?
Ray Joseph Cormier Added Feb 14, 2018 - 2:52pm
Politics and money dominate the Olympic Games these days, totally opposite to the Spirit of friendly competition that was the idea of the original Greek Games.
Ray Joseph Cormier Added Feb 14, 2018 - 3:04pm
Seems Americans have forgot American Propaganda repetitively warned Americans about 'terrorist' attacks at the 2014 Russian Olympic Games in Sochi to frighten Americans from attending and it worked to a large degree.
There were no terrorist attacks, and many Athletes said they were the best organized games ever. That American Propaganda effort was to sabotage Putin's Olympic games because he is such a sports fan.
My friend's son plays hockey for the Russian KHL in Sochi, and he and his wife love the place. He was made Captain of the team even though he doesn't speak Russian. He is now on CanaDa's Olympic Hockey Team competing in Korea.
Dave Volek Added Feb 14, 2018 - 4:34pm
Because you are not from North America, you are probably getting the full background that makes up this story.
"Taking a knee" is a common football position when the coach is addressing his players or when another player is hurt. It is regarded as a sign of respect in this sport. This position involves an upright position, but with one knee on the ground and the other leg in a right-angle position.
For the past six months, National Football League players in the USA have been protesting a systemic racism in the USA by "taking a knee" during the American national anthem. Traditionally, the players stand during the anthem. This break of tradition gets a lot of attention in the media. Supporters shows taking the knee shows a sign of respect for the country but the break in tradition shows some things need fixing. Detractors say the players in this protest are showing disrespect for the country that gave them the privilege of playing this sport for lots of money.
President Trump is a detractor of this protest. He wants the team owners to fire these players. So taking a knee during the anthem at a football game is "bad" according to the White House. It seems Mr. Pence is protesting in a similar way for an unrelated issue. He chose to remain sitting when the rest of the crowd gives a standing ovation for showing signs that the two Koreas are working things out. Tubularsock called this sit-down protest "Taking a butt"--a definite allusion to the football protest and the Trump paradox that such a protest is good here but bad there.
Stone-Eater Added Feb 14, 2018 - 6:01pm
Yep. My program will be called "If Trump was Swiss".
Tubularsock Added Feb 14, 2018 - 6:47pm
Eileen deBruin, thank you for your comment.
In truth, it was a “thought out” public relations stunt but the “thought” was created in the Dump world which is comprised with NO THINKING AT ALL.
Dave Volek has provided a great outline for you so Tubularsock won’t duplicate it.
The great part is that Pence is an Ass so it was a perfect display of that fact.
Tubularsock Added Feb 14, 2018 - 6:48pm
“Politics and money dominate the Olympic Games” and has now for years and years and that is what the current Olympics underpinning rest upon. And as you know Ray it is beyond change now.
Interesting information on the Russian 2014 Olympic Games and your friend’s son. Interesting to know someone who can see what really is going on without the anti-Russian flavor.
Thanks, Ray.
Tubularsock Added Feb 14, 2018 - 6:49pm
Thanks Dave for your complete explanation on the crossover between the knee and the butt. Well done!
Tubularsock Added Feb 14, 2018 - 6:54pm
Stone, great title but you may want to consider Trump IS Piss. But on second thought, If Trump was Swiss it would be your problem not ours!
Ray Joseph Cormier Added Feb 14, 2018 - 7:02pm
Tub, this article was in the New York Times Today,
Russia Sees Midterm Elections as Chance to Sow Fresh Discord, Intelligence Chiefs Warn
This comment was posted,

Ray Joseph Cormier
Hull, Quebec 3 hours ago

UN Secretary-General Dag Hammarskjold was killed in a suspicious plane crash in 1961. He dared speak Truth to Power. His quote from over 60 years ago is so relevant to what is going on Today. It has spread like never before to affect the judgments of the Politicians, the news media, and the Public.

-The Assembly has witnessed over the last weeks how historical truth is established; once an allegation has been repeated a few times, it is no longer an allegation, it is an established fact, even if no evidence has been brought out in order to support it.

American propaganda is scapegoating Russia to absolve Americans of responsibility for creating their own political divisions.

Observing from CanaDa, this anti-Russia/Putin Propaganda is confirming this Vision of the Future published 41 years ago.

On September 13, 1976, the major daily THE KANSAS CITY TIMES published this Vision of the FUTURE: “He came to town for the Republican National Convention and will stay until the election in November TO DO GOD'S BIDDING: To tell the world, from Kansas City, this country has been found wanting and its days are numbered [...] He gestured toward a gleaming church dome. “The gold dome is the symbol of Babylon,” he said.” [...] He wanted to bring to the Public’s attention an “idea being put out subtly and deceptively” by the government that we have to get prepared for a war with Russia.”
Tubularsock Added Feb 14, 2018 - 7:22pm
Ray, "American propaganda is scapegoating Russia to absolve Americans of responsibility for creating their own political divisions."
Tubularsock would say it is much broader than even that. In the realm of foreign policy or domestic policy the U.S will scapegoat anybody else rather than looking into the proverbial mirror at the actual culprit!
Thanks Ray for the comment.   
Bud Oly Lite Added Feb 15, 2018 - 12:04am
I think I've asked before, but I'll ask again - What's with the name "Tubularsock"? Recently I saw a parody image of a cover of a Nancy Drew mystery seemingly made in the 1950's titled "The Secret of the Old Cum Sock", with a svelte Nancy hoisting a (apparently) semen-laden sock from a grass field, with a pair of tweezers, of course. When I went back to WB, I thought of you! lol
Tubularsock Added Feb 15, 2018 - 12:34am
Michael B., Tubularsock thanks you for wanting to have clarity in one of your life's questions. And there is a rather mundane answer for your question.
However Tubularsock would rather say, "What goes around cums around Nancy! For if all the semen in a row would only "sock it to Nancy" would she cum around again?
The truth will set you free!
Bud Oly Lite Added Feb 15, 2018 - 12:45am
LOOOOOOOL! Hahahahha!
Bud Oly Lite Added Feb 15, 2018 - 12:47am
Thanks TS - The only question remaining is the meaning of life! I'm good for now, LOOOOOOOOL!
opher goodwin Added Feb 15, 2018 - 5:22am
Pence was hypocritical. It's no good moaning about footballers not showing respect and then demonstrating rudeness. But he is only mimicking the rudeness that Trump displayed at his inauguration. Rudeness reflects on the person displaying it in my opinion.
In my job I had to entertain Tory politicians. I despise their politics but that did not prevent me from providing them with cordial receptions. Respect can be extended to those we disagree with.
Stephen Hunter Added Feb 15, 2018 - 7:51am
I was not aware of this fact, thanks for the enlightenment. The old double standard, and only concerned for what is good for the US. (keeping people fighting so more money gets spent on the military budget- does seem to be an ultimate US goal) 
Tubularsock Added Feb 15, 2018 - 11:23am
Stephen, glad to have been of service. There is so much going wrong who can keep up.
You are spot on about the U.S. military budget! Sadly the wrong people die.
Appreciate your comment.
Tubularsock Added Feb 15, 2018 - 11:24am
opher hypocrisy is the foundation of American foreign policy and has been so long that it is taken as “normal”!
It is just that Trump and Pence have no class at implementing it.
Obummer and the Clintons could carry it off and they were equally as dangerous but WAY LESS entertaining.
Thanks for your comments.
Oh, you can’t trust a Tory!
Dave Volek Added Feb 15, 2018 - 11:25am
If all the great minds ever got together to invent a new sport, they could not create a bigger mess than gridiron football. Only Americans and Canadians have some idea of what is going on in the field. And then there is the whole culture behind this sport with its idioms making their way into pop culture.
If I were a prejudiced person, I would say that Europeans are obviously inferior as they are incapable of grasping this sport. 
Bill Kamps Added Feb 15, 2018 - 11:38am
We have no choice but to talk to the North Koreans. Even the dopes in our government know that.  They may not want to admit it publicly, but they know it.  We dont have to be churlish just because we dont like that NK is in the Olympics.  
When two parties negotiate, and one has huge advantages over the other, the larger party should show generosity towards the smaller.  Otherwise the larger party risks looking like a bully, and the smaller will retreat to an extreme defensive position.
We are asking the North Koreans to give up their nuclear weapons, and trust that we wont invade them, or threaten them militarily in the future.  Being a bully, being petulant, is not the way to bring NK to the negotiating table with compromise in their intentions.
Tubularsock Added Feb 15, 2018 - 11:59am
Bill, Tubularsock is sending you a ticket to Washington, D.C. this morning and just letting you know that you are our new Secretary of State!
Now just carry out this plan because you are so right on! And just maybe we can cut the crap and calm the entire thing down!
Good luck
Tubularsock Added Feb 15, 2018 - 12:01pm
Well Dave, you are correct about the time and nomenclature that has been created around “gridiron” football. Not to mention beer sales revenue.
However you may be getting into rather deep water with your position about “European inferiority” about their knowledge of “football”.
In Europe, as you know, football is called soccer and it is literally played primarily with the feet while North American “football” is primarily a running and passing ball game.
So who is really confused here?
People playing “football” with their feet or people playing “football” by not using their feet?
Thanks for bringing all this up, Dave.
Tubularsock feels that if this could be solved it may bring about world peace in our time.
Dave Volek Added Feb 15, 2018 - 12:23pm
If we put society resources towards solving the great "football vs. football" debate, I would say this is another of many distractions to keep us preoccupied with what is really wrong with the world. The DEEP STATE, if it exists, wins again.
Damn those international Jewish bankers who don't believe the Holocaust and selling nuclear missile parts to North Dakota.
Tubularsock Added Feb 15, 2018 - 12:31pm
Dave, good point.
But all bets are off if and when we find out which "team" the Deep States backs!
opher goodwin Added Feb 15, 2018 - 1:31pm
Tub - Oh I didn't trust those Tories. I just gave them a cup of tea.
Carole McKee Added Feb 15, 2018 - 2:48pm
Tubularsock: In American football, there is the kickoff, the punt, and the extra point--all done with the feet. I like soccer, but I love football.
I also want to point out that many, many Americans have proper manners and decorum to act accordingly. I sure don't want to be judged by what the classless morons in the White House do. I only hope that the people around the world understand that the pigs in the White House are not indicative of the U.S. citizens' behavior.
Tubularsock Added Feb 15, 2018 - 4:00pm
Carole McKee, thank you so much for your comment.
We are in complete agreement about the classless morons in the White House!
As for football you make some very solid points (no pun intended, though Tubularsock will take what he can get) but Tubularsock would venture to say that if you add the time during a game that are used for kickoffs, punts, and extra points as for the time of hiking, passing, and running the latter would win hands down.
However that being said, for one who “loves” football such as yourself who wants to quibble over the small things, pass Tubularsock a beer .... rah!
The closest Tubularsock ever got to football was way, way back in high school when the head coach searched Tubularsock out and attempted to get Tubularsock to come out for his team as a quarterback. (Due to the fact that Tubularsock was a rather fast sprinter on the track team.)
Tubularsock ask the head coach if the quarterback was the guy who received the ball that all those other HUGE guys wanted to get a hold of.
He said YES.
Tubularsock asked the head coach, “Why would anyone want that job?”
The very next day Tubularsock shifted to long distance running. (true story)
Carole McKee Added Feb 15, 2018 - 4:08pm
Ha-HA! That's funny. But you have a valid point about football. Most of it is passing, running, and pounding the sh*t out of each other Being a former Pittsburgher, I'm a die-hard Steelers fan. However, I did coach little league soccer and softball. 
Tubularsock Added Feb 15, 2018 - 4:11pm
Tubularsock thanks you Carole.
Yeah, it was the "pounding the sh*t out of each other " part that scared Tubularsock.
Carole McKee Added Feb 15, 2018 - 4:15pm
Smart man, Tubularsock. Smart man.
Bill H. Added Feb 15, 2018 - 9:38pm
With the present administration, I am afraid that talks with NK would be fruitless.
Anyone who works for this administration would have no flexibility in the negotiation process. They would simply be advised by Trump to enforce his position, which would "my way or the highway". Compromises would be out of the question.
They might as well send Sara Huckabee Sanders over there to puppet the Orange Buffoon's wishes directly.
Dave Volek Added Feb 15, 2018 - 10:11pm
Bill H.
Your position as VP in the "Tubularsock for President 2020" Campaign puts your recent comment in the obvious "biased to gain political power" column.
BTW everyone, donations are coming in fast and furious. Send yours today to:
Dave Volek
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Tubularsock for Prez Campaign
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Tubularsock Added Feb 16, 2018 - 2:20am
Bill, you are correct. The neocons have moved in again and are running the show. (if they ever left)
Trump and the gang are just diversionary tactics being used to cause maximum devastation to the country.
Tubularsock Added Feb 16, 2018 - 2:25am
Dave, Tubularsock wants to make it clear once again that Tubularsock doesn't even use Russian dressing on his salads!
That should clear up any questions and cause even more people to start russian to Tubularsock's Presidential campaign!
Thank Dave!
Ray Joseph Cormier Added Feb 16, 2018 - 8:41am
Signs of starvation and death in North Korea indicate that US diplomatic strategy works fine, says the secretary of state. The objective now is not to let Pyongyang evoke sympathy around the world for its sanctions-induced woes.

The unexpectedly-revealing description of what Rex Tillerson apparently considers successful diplomacy came from his own mouth on Wednesday as he was speaking at Stanford University with former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.
“The Japanese… have had over a 100 North Korean fishing boats that have drifted into Japanese waters. Two-thirds of the people on those boats have died,” Tillerson said, citing the Japanese delegation that attended a conference in Vancouver, Canada, earlier this week.
Dying North Koreans a sign US diplomatic strategy works, Tillerson says
Bill Kamps Added Feb 16, 2018 - 9:05am
Ray, seems like a flawed strategy to me.  First the  NK leaders really dont care if their people starve, and second it seems that the more we strong arm NK, the less likely it will be that they give up their only defense against the USA.  
They say they want nuclear weapons because they feel threatened by the USA.  So will threatening them more, get them to give them up?  Im not sure what kind reasoning this is.
If the neocons want a war there, they clearly havent thought it through.  Of course they didnt think it through with Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt and Libya.  Maybe at some point the American people will say "enough" but clearly we aren't there yet.  We just added another $150 billion to the "defense" budget, which really has nothing to do with defending the country.  We spend more on defense than the next ten countries combined, eight of which are allies of ours.  We spend 10x what the Russians spend.  Shoot Italy's defense budget is larger that Russia's.  Shouldnt  that be enough? how can we possibly argue that we dont spend enough?
Mr Sock, if you make it to be President I will happily serve as your Secretary of State, and serve at the pleasure of the President.
Ray Joseph Cormier Added Feb 16, 2018 - 10:21am
Bill, the American position is they will not negotiate with North Korea until NK obeys US Dictates, that is, remove any protection against US Military adventurism before negotiations will happen.
The 64 year Truce is evidence tiny, impoverished North Korea will not surrender to the Goliath of US Imperialism.
US Economic Warfare/Sanctions against NK has been in place in one form or another since 1953.
When will Americans wake up? What does it portend for the Future with massive increases in an already bloated US Military budget, while cutting massively back on US Diplomacy at the same Time?
Dave Volek Added Feb 16, 2018 - 11:25am
I think it is a good campaign strategy to have an openly  corrupt Canadian treasurer than a subtle corrupt Russian treasurer. The American people will be "russian" in to cast a vote in your favor. 
You need to appoint a secretary to keep track of secretaries. I thought we already had a secretary of state, and now Bill Kamps wants the job.
Ray Joseph Cormier Added Feb 16, 2018 - 7:25pm
Mike Pence confirmed again that the administration’s idea of “talking” to North Korea doesn’t mean anything:

Vice President Mike Pence told Axios’ Mike Allen on Wednesday President Trump “always believes in talking [with North Korea], but talking is not negotiating.”
He said nothing will change with North Korea until they give up their pursuit of nuclear weapons [bold mine-DL]. He said they must “completely, verifiably, and completely abandon” its missile programs, and “only then can we consider any change in posture by the United States or the international community.”

The administration’s maximalism may feel satisfying, but it has no chance of reducing tensions or getting North Korea to agree to anything. The insistence that North Korea abandon these programs is as unrealistic as can be. It is not just that North Korea has already invested considerable resources in these programs and would be reluctant to dismantle everything they already have, but they also believe these programs to be essential to their security. Just as our government would not budge on something that it considered vitally important, theirs is not going to budge. More pressure and threats will just make them cling to these programs that much more tightly.
Tubularsock Added Feb 16, 2018 - 9:03pm
Ray and Bill, Tubularsock was going to say Bill and Ray but that’s a comedy team and you guys aren’t being funny!
No question that the attempted direction is to jack up this mess rather than quiet it down.
So why? What is the objective ....... Killery would have done the same thing so obviously the U.S. power elite DOESN’T want peace.
What is it that they want? .......... and Tubularsock knows that you both already know the answer.
Tubularsock must say Condo Rice should be in prison as a war criminal but instead she is in a University and people rant about a “liberal” agenda in the Universities?
Lock that fucking bitch up and throw away the key!
Thank you both for your comments.
Tubularsock Added Feb 16, 2018 - 9:03pm
Now Dave, if there is one thing Tubularsock can get behind is open corruption! And you are the man for the job.
Tubularsock has a short list for Secretaries Of ............ and Tubularsock will fill in the blanks as time permits. Don’t be too concerned.
All in all if things keep going in the direction that they are going Tubularsock will have less of a country left to be President of!
Hope that won’t cut into the salary and sick pay.
Thanks Dave and remember bit coin and cash ...... no records unless it’s an old 78 of Gypsy Rose Lee the musical!
Dr. Rupert Green Added Feb 17, 2018 - 9:52am
@ Tube. Your graphic was so enlightening and contradicting of Trump's policy regarding sports players on their knees, that  I had to use it on my FB. I wonder if the kneelers were juxtaposed to Trump's guiding hands for his relief if he would be so hard on them. Of course, robust men know that when so juxtaposed, it is unwise to take a hardline on the  accommodating thespian.   
Carole McKee Added Feb 17, 2018 - 12:11pm
Tubularsock: I don't use Russian Dressing either. Nor will I drink Vodka.
Tubularsock Added Feb 17, 2018 - 7:09pm
Carole, Tubularsock is glad that you have made your stand against Russian Dressing. Very patriotic if you ask Tubularsock.
However there is a very smooth Texan Vodka, Tito’s, that hasn’t seen a Russian. Tubularsock isn’t a big Vodka fan in truth.
Wild Turkey is Tubularsock favorite whiskey. Neat with no chaser. And hot Sake by the gallon is always good but cold Sake isn’t to
Tubularsock’s taste though it has become more popular today.
And of course a good hit off Tubularsock hash pipe and Carole you wouldn’t really care anymore. It is difficult to drink when you hovering at ceiling level.
Tubularsock Added Feb 17, 2018 - 7:10pm
Dr. Green, Tubularsock is glad you have put the graphic to good use!
Carole McKee Added Feb 18, 2018 - 4:18pm
No, Carole doesn't smoke anything.  I very seldom drink anything harder than Died Pepsi, but my choice is Jim Beam when I want to imbibe.
Tubularsock Added Feb 18, 2018 - 6:13pm
Carole, you may not be aware that the chemicals in diet Pepsi may be worse for you than Jim Beam.
And think about using Jim Beam on your breakfast cereal. It may just make the mornings go better. (a little health tip from Tubularsock)
Carole McKee Added Feb 19, 2018 - 1:15pm
LOL! Thanks for the tip. Maybe I'll try it sometime.

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