Socialism is wayyyy to broad a term

Socialism is wayyyy to broad a term. It does work. Czechia is a fantastic country, its 1000x better run than the US. They have some of the highest percentage of small businesses. Every time I go back to visit, the country feels more vibrant.


In the US, depending on what state you are in, you could be paying taxes just around that of a "socialist" country. The US gov is meddling in EVERYTHING these days, and yet, you still end up paying. The Czechs get free daycare, less work hours/more vacation, free healthcare (and I do mean free), free education, free transportation, etc. They pay maybe 15% in income tax, with a 7% surcharge if you make a ton of money. So tell me, how does that compare to the US where you pay 35%, get nothing free, education is $250k, you pay for daycare ($1000s/month), you get no vacation, and you work like a dog until you are 60? 


Please, to those that say America is superior because we're a capitalist country, do some fucking research into the actualities of living in a socialist country rather than simply using "socialism" to equate to "communism", which it fuckin aint. 


Bill H. Added Feb 12, 2018 - 12:32pm
In this day and age, an ideal system for the US would be a mixture of Socialism and Capitalism. It seems that Capitalism alone has migrated to the point of where the corporations are running the country and benefiting the most, as the citizens are becoming more and more the servants of the corporations. The American "dream" of leaving college, scoring a great career, and buying a house has disappeared. Any of the great careers still available are being filled overseas, or by H1-B visa workers who come from overseas. Our healthcare system is geared strictly around immediate profit for all involved, with no concern for the customer.
As long as we allow corporate America to call the shots and control the government, things will simply worsen.
You are correct about vacations. I managed a large group of communication Engineers for many years. I always insisted that they take their vacations, and staffed the departments to account for this. Over the last few years prior to retiring, It was becoming frowned upon to staff departments to allow for vacations while providing proper coverage of job duties. I finally migrated to the point where employees actually feared taking vacation due to being looked down upon by their peers and the constant looming possibility of loosing their job.
WTF has happened to our country? 
Thomas Sutrina Added Feb 13, 2018 - 8:20am
The people know what freedom is because the generation that lived under the boot of the USSR still walk the streets.  Complacency has lead to not guarding the foundation of the country.  Crony Capitalist and Socialism have baby stepped 'Fabian Socialism' us into plastering over with socialist poster the foundation to make it appear as a socialist foundation.  That is what you see.   I have no idea if we can strip off the posters and get back to the foundation.  I see hop in the next generation.  It is human nature for the next generation to question their parents choices.  That is how the socialist posted over the foundation in the first place.  Now the flaws of their decision are crystal clear.
Thomas Sutrina Added Feb 13, 2018 - 8:32am
Czechia has kept a lot of the chains of the USSR system, socialism.  In time the bureaucracy to steer that train will develop and your country will move towards the USSR of the past.  Those free day care, health care,  free education, free transportation, etc. are NOT FREE.  That is the point you need to understand.  You have given up you FREE CHOICE to vote with your feet.  In the end you will no like the results.
Pick up the Book "Free to Choose" by Milton and Rose Friedman  Their is also a PBS series on the book out of Univ. of Chicago.  
I will leave you with an observation from a book that is in the class of the Bible for being read around the world.  Adam Smith's "Wealth of Nations."
Adam Smiths invisible hands and key insight and Capitalism embarrasses them. Ref: "Free to Choose" Milton & Rose Friedman 1979 Introduction: Adam Smith key insight was that both parties to an exchange can benefit and that, so long as cooperation is strictly voluntary, no exchange will take place unless both parties do benefit. ... Adam Smith put it, an individual who "intends only his own gain" is led by an invisible hand to promote an end which was no part of his intention. Nor is it always the worse for the society that it was no part of it. By pursuing his own interest he frequently promotes that of the society more effectually than when he really intends to promote it. I have never known much good done by those who affected to trade for the public good." ... "an individual who intends only to serve the public interest by fostering government intervention is "led by an invisible hand to promote" private interest, "which was no part of his intention."
Adam Smith's words, "the uniform, constant, and uninterrupted effort of every man to better his conditions, the principle from which public and national, as well as private opulence is originally derived," has been, "powerful enough to maintain the natural progress of things towards improvement, in spite both of the extravagance of governments and of the greatest errors of administration. Like the unknown principle of animal life, it frequently restores health and vigour to the constitution, in spite, no only of the disease, but of the absurd prescription of the doctor." Wealth of Nations Vol 1, page 325 book II chapter III 1776 edition edited by Edwin Cannan 5th edition London Methuen & Co Ltd 1930

Milton Friedman points out that "Economic freedom is an essential requisite for political freedom. ... The combination of economic and political power in the same hands is a sure recipe for tyranny."

This is an out of balance capitalist model that even Adam Smith would shudder at! As he wrote in The Wealth of Nations,
.....the interest of the dealers however, in any particular branch of trade or manufacture, is always in some respects different from and even opposite to, that of the public and therefore to that of the social structure itself........”
This is where we are today!! 
Dino Manalis Added Feb 13, 2018 - 8:42am
Socialism comes in variations, the CZech Republic needs to continue being more like Germany and less like the former Soviet Union they revolted against.  I'm glad the CZechs and Slovakia split peacefully with elections and didn't destroy Czechoslovakia like Yugoslavia was torn apart with constant wars.  It still remains to be seen what kind of a government they'll end up with.  I hear central/eastern European countries have become more authoritarian and resist the influx of refugees from the Islamic World.
Thomas Sutrina Added Feb 13, 2018 - 8:45am
You like shopping?  Each purchase you vote with your feet and the suppliers respond to those votes and provide you with what you want  and get paid, what they want.     So what happens when government limits the choices like in health care?  Well the number of choices decrease and the cost initially decreases.   But those supplying the the health care do not have to worry about you voting with your feet to go somewhere else.  They can get lazy and will. So the quality will slowly decrease.  And the supplier may say I can eliminate this option to save effort and still get the same pay.  
Ask those that lived under USSR the quality of the goods and services received?   Most of the people in Czechia are capable of purchasing the services now given out not for free.  Your still paying.  So why not since your paying get to choose, vote with your feet?   Those not capable of paying will get the government FREE program.  That you are paying for.   But the point is that only a small portion of the population should be receiving the Government stuff.  You, those that vote with your feet set the standard of care for the system which will raise up the government program.   You however have to be observant to demand that your paying for quality government services.  That also has fallen down in the USA.
Dave Volek Added Feb 13, 2018 - 3:22pm
A small stipend for raising children at home in Czechoslovakia was instituted long before communism fell. It was allowed to continue under democracy and both countries maintained this social program after their divorce.
It has been 28 years since communism fell. Both countries have advanced, not declined, by keeping these social programs in place.
All western countries have a high degree of public health care--except the United States. It seems to me that we have more than enough time to watch this experiment unfold. The public health care countries have not fallen behind in any way relative to the USA. 
Mike Haluska Added Feb 13, 2018 - 7:24pm
Bill H - your comment:
"In this day and age, an ideal system for the US would be a mixture of Socialism and Capitalism."
has finally confirmed what I suspected for a while despite your repeated insistence you are not a "progressive".  Stating that you can "mix" two diametrically opposed economic systems is typical of socialists who are trying to convince others that it's possible to have it "both ways".  Socialists know damned well that free, prosperous people want nothing to do with the "something for nothing" nonsense of collectivists.  So they always implement socialism the way they have in the US since FDR - incrementally over generations.
A. Jones Added Feb 13, 2018 - 11:07pm
except the United States
That must explain why the U.S. is responsible for inventing most of the new drugs and medical devices that other "advanced" countries buy and subsidize for their citizens (there's no incentive for their biotech firms to innovate, so they rely on the U.S. to do that), and why the U.S. has better patient outcomes in cancer survival, cardiovascular disease survival, orthopedic surgeries, etc., and why a U.S. senior citizen can make an appointment for cataract surgery and get it the next day, while the average wait time in "advanced" countries with government-subsidized universal coverage is 3.5 months.
The only reason people in "advanced" countries with government-run universal healthcare might brag about their healthcare system is that over the decades, they have learned to accustom themselves to a lower level of healthcare. Since they get less, they have come to expect less; since they expect less, they claim to be happy over what little they get: "Sure it's crap. But it's free crap!" That's their philosophy, and apparently, Volek, it's yours, too.
Stephen Hunter Added Feb 14, 2018 - 8:04am
You make a good point Inhibi. 
It is amazing how language works and how a name evokes an emotional response, based on past labels usually by a group of supposed like minded thinkers. 
Socialism is something we all live within to a certain extent as you point out. Humans by nature live in "Communities", and the root of that word is 'Commune' of which the word "Communist" comes from. 
Capitalists fear Socialism,and by Capitalists i am using that in reference to Big Business and Billion $ + wealthy families. Their propaganda keeps the poor whipped up with fear that the communists will take away their freedom. So they keep the population fighting and not cooperating for the good of the population. But actually it is for the good of their bank accounts. The income divide keeps widening, and people keep fighting with one another. 
Bill H. Added Feb 14, 2018 - 11:34am
Mike - Again you are off base.
Many Western European countries are doing it. Even in NZ where a relative of mine lives, they have combined the best of both.
Again, if you must label people to be comfortable, call me what you want.
I have never, ever referred to you as a Fascist Right Wing Looney Tune, have I?