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A long time ago, seems like forever, I used to get new ideas. At lunch a group of friends would sit together and talk about whatever came up. I was quite Liberal then, and so were my friends. But we did not agree on many things. Flag burning, to me was to incite anger, not promote an idea, but my friend thought it was a message that a symbol should not dictate behavior.

 

We would contemplate “What If's” and often get annoyed at each others intransigence on the subject, but we went back to work and our minds worked on solutions while we did our job. The next day we would modify our positions based on what our Psyche had concluded.

 

I belonged to a weekly book club. We would go to each others houses and discuss a chosen book. What was the author trying to say? Did he present it skillfully in a character. How did that relate to our own lives. Since we were men and women, it would get quite lively, and demonstrate how the same incident changed with our unique perspective. There was 8 of us and 8 meanings occasionally were presented.

Life was very complex then.

 

On Sunday, the Reverend would talk about God's plan for us as revealed in scripture. Sometimes this would conflict with my lifestyle. I liked to party on Saturday nights and sometimes get drunk and go to bed with a strange girl. As I would listen to what others thought God wanted me to do, I couldn't help buy think; “If God didn't want me to sin, why did he make it so much fun?”

 

And that was my life. Ever changing ideas made life interesting. Sometimes I would take a class at the Community College, to learn about Small Business Management or something. Being my own boss was a goal, a dream for when I got older.

Personal Computers came on the scene. I thought it was great. I could meet girl's on MATCH.com, and my love life really improved. Of course there were bad incidents and disappointments, but all in all it was good. I discovered chat rooms, and it was better than the lunch discussions or book club. On Line, I could talk to many more people, and didn't have to face them the next day, if I chose not to. Just don't log in or go to another group.

Soon I found that I didn't have to change my opinion! I could find evidence to destroy an opposing point of view, right there on GOOGLE. I just kept getting smarter and smarter. Before long, I was the KING of my chosen Web Sites, and could destroy anybody who dared to question my Ideas and beliefs! I knew everything there is to know. I controlled the world from my Lap Top.

 

I realized I was smarter than those fools on the Nightly News, and especially those Idiots in Government who couldn't see as clearly as I could, right from wrong. How could they let people starve, or go without medical care? I had to do something about it! So I found where the nearest group that believed as I did was demonstrating and joined them.

 

How good it felt, to put my beliefs into ACTION! I even got to throw a bottle at a bunch of Cops. I HAD ALL OF LIFE”S ANSWER'S.

 

But when I think back on the old days, I realize I haven't had any new ideas lately.

 

Comments

Nasty Added Sep 11, 2017 - 3:48pm
I came to WB looking for new ideas. I was polite and inquisitive, but was quickly attacked. Well I am a tough street kid and soon decimated my attackers.
But I didn't learn anything, and I sure as hell didn't influence those I counterpunched.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Sep 11, 2017 - 3:52pm
But when I think back on the old days, I realize I haven't had any new ideas lately.
 
Don't worry. The older you get, the less new ideas you have because you know so much more than before. Age cements personality, and while some get wiser, others get stubborn. Age is for watching and advising, not for acting. It's to prepare our next for what's to come for them. We can't do more than that. If they listen is another question. Mostly they don't, that's why we don't progress as humans. But that's nature, not anyone's fault.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Sep 11, 2017 - 3:53pm
BTW: Good to see you got a thick skin :-)
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Sep 11, 2017 - 3:55pm
BTW2: Good to have you here !
Nasty Added Sep 11, 2017 - 3:55pm
SEF. Why do I need GOOGLE, when I have kids who know everything!
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Sep 11, 2017 - 3:58pm
True. Kids are neutral. As long as we don't fuck them up with our own narrow-minded ego and block their own development :-)
Nasty Added Sep 11, 2017 - 3:59pm
A thick skin only means we have less ability to FEEL! I don't like it, but that is the world I live in.
I really miss the weekly book club, when I could expose my emotions without fear.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Sep 11, 2017 - 4:04pm
I've got 13 of them. And I love it. WHY ? Because they have no prejudices and I can play soccer with them LOL
Nasty Added Sep 11, 2017 - 4:07pm
Good for you! Mother Theresa had thousands. We do what we can for as many as we can. At least some of us do! And we are all the better for it!
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Sep 11, 2017 - 4:13pm
A thick skin only means we have less ability to FEEL
 
Nope. A thick skin means you brush away stuff which isn't worth it and don't let it get to you. You know what you're worth. That has IMHO nothing to do with feeling. People asked me once how can you support life in Africa seeing the poverty ? I just said you can't change the whole but only your close environment. Without a thick skin you don't help anybody. Not comparable to a website really, but if I would let people on a blog let myself to fall into a depression because they insult me I'm also not fit for life in general :-)
Nasty Added Sep 11, 2017 - 4:25pm
One of the points I tried to make in the article is how so many people have deluded themselves into thinking they have all the answers.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Sep 11, 2017 - 4:36pm
Nasty
 
No one has all the answers, since we don't even know if we ask the right questions.....
Donna Added Sep 11, 2017 - 4:40pm
Nasty-  I have no answers, all questions..Every time i thought i knew, i found a totally different way of looking at it..
Now at 51, i let the younger ones ask, i sit back and watch..more fun this way..
I missed the first article you posted, as you said this is not your first, but welcome to WB, take the insults,with a grain of salt..
There are some great people on here..)0(
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Sep 11, 2017 - 4:42pm
Donna
 
Donna - 10cc
 
:-)
Donna Added Sep 11, 2017 - 4:46pm
SEF- who are they?? Interesting!! Let me see in 72 i was 6..LOL 
Dino Manalis Added Sep 11, 2017 - 4:50pm
New ideas are always in demand!
Nasty Added Sep 11, 2017 - 4:53pm
 
Donna. This is my first article. I began with comments and was attacked for being skeptical. I am skeptical of everything I read on the Internet, because the imagination becomes reality when you are isolated from people.
Donna Added Sep 11, 2017 - 5:00pm
Nasty,
Skeptical-is about the only way to survive in this crazy world..I can understand being skeptical..also why i try not to isolate myself . )0(
Nasty Added Sep 11, 2017 - 5:05pm
People like to spin platitudes that seem wise. But platitudes like generalities are not for every occasion. When was the last time you truly examined an idea with out a preconceived conclusion? Many people SAY they do, but I have NEVER seen an Essay written on this site. Anyone on the Internet has been provided the answers in ideology, and are looking for questions to apply it to!
It has been many years for me, and I miss it!
wsucram15 Added Sep 11, 2017 - 10:22pm
Nasty...
This is a bloggers site.  If you write anything long and detailed (not that the people arent intelligent)very few will read it. Especially if its not something they want to hear.
 
There are good authors though, both in form and context, and there are some in spite of themselves will listen if you present something to them in a way that makes sense.
 
Dont let people give you a hard time on here..write what you feel and stand up for it.
Nasty Added Sep 12, 2017 - 12:20am
 
wsucram15. I wouldn't call this a bloggers site. A blogger to me is Brightbart or Huffington.
Autumn says it is a Social network/blog. But the average article seems to be more chat, than blog. The difference being length and depth of thought, i.e. quality.
The good authors are what I seek, but so far they haven't showed. Look at the comments to this article. They are all about how to survive on WB.
Nothing of substance as to content of the article, as if they didn't even read it, or just glanced over!
What did YOU think about my theme that people no longer create new ideas?
I don't back down, but if all that WB has to offer is argumentation, then I am afraid it is not for me! But I did enjoy killing Indians! HA HA HA
I was merciless on Ric Wells and Dannl Yoder. But nothing was gained!
Nasty Added Sep 12, 2017 - 12:23am
P.S. I thought the article was a thought piece, but nobody agrees with me so far!
EXPAT Added Sep 12, 2017 - 12:50am
 
Nasty. You are wasting your time trying to get the people on WB to think out of the box. Like you say,
Soon I found that I didn't have to change my opinion! I could find evidence to destroy an opposing point of view, right there on GOOGLE. I just kept getting smarter and smarter. Before long, I was the KING of my chosen Web Sites, and could destroy anybody who dared to question my Ideas and beliefs! I knew everything there is to know. I controlled the world from my Lap Top.
 
I realized I was smarter than those fools on the Nightly News, and especially those Idiots in Government who couldn't see as clearly as I could
That describes the people on WB, and you are not going to change it.
Google has convinced all of us, that we no longer have to experience people, places and things. We can click, watch a video, read commentary, and then debate the issue, all from the comfort of home!
 
The most challenging issue we can experience in life, is getting to understand another person. In most cases we can only interpret our understanding with our own experience.
Since we no longer experience other people in person,  we believe the most ridiculous crap, like the commentary on POTUS Trump.
IT also allows us to attack each other in the most vicious way, both verbally and physically, because the other guy is our creation.
 
MJ Added Sep 12, 2017 - 1:41am
Nasty, I trust the book club you belonged to was really about books--here in South Africa most book clubs don`t even talk about books but discuss and taste the best whisky!
To experience new ideas you have to get out of your comfort zone      ( computer) and do something different!
Nasty Added Sep 12, 2017 - 2:15am
 
Yes MJ. We were mixed race and sex. We could drink if we wanted on a BYO basis, but that was not the purpose. The way it worked; each of us would chose a book in turn, for all to read. Then we would vote on weather to continue discussion to the following week or read the next recommendation. It served as inspiration to read a book a week. Not every social event has a hidden agenda. There are honest people in this world, perhaps not in SA.
But wine tasting clubs are very popular, and I hear that whiskey clubs are catching on in USA!
MJ Added Sep 12, 2017 - 4:37am
Oh, we are honest enough in South Africa, Nasty--we did not raid the UK for their diamonds! 
We might not need a hand to motivate us to read a book, we can do it on our own steam.
wsucram15 Added Sep 12, 2017 - 5:57am
Nasty..It is with some about argumentation, that began about a year ago, maybe more than that now.  Nothing to do with politics, just specific people that joined the group that instead of writing and commenting, really stirred the pot.
I supposed it made it less mundane therefore more readership.  I really dont know. 
I can tell you you need a very thick skin on here and there are at times, arguments that cross lines that have caused many really good writers to leave.  Some because of those specific people I speak of. 
 
For me, I like to write, I do so on more than one page, but this is my favorite because of a couple of people on here I have written with for a long time.  Whether I agree with them or not.  Expat is one of my favorites for abstract thought..although he and I differ greatly in ideals right now.  I keep telling everyone on here Google is your enemy..no one listens. 
 
I liked your article...it reminds me of a few people, not necessarily on here. LOL.  Read my last article...not an advertisement.  There are many writers on here and some others that write very well. 
So why dont you create some new Ideas..Mark Henry Smith is a good one for that. Expat used to be, SEF the same..Opher. 
I promise to read, who knows maybe you will be the change we all need?  Thats a thought.
Doug Plumb Added Sep 12, 2017 - 7:13am
New ideas are usually bad ideas. Most have been tried before and have failed. The only really good idea I know of is Western Jurisprudence and the Golden Rule for which it rests. This idea will soon be gone as people forget or don't know.
Henry Ortiz Added Sep 12, 2017 - 3:48pm
I think that many people have good ideas, the problem is that common sense has disappeared. 
 
Another issue is pride, everybody thinks they are completely right, even when facts show they are wrong they will not accept their defeat.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Sep 12, 2017 - 5:57pm
everybody thinks they are completely right, even when facts show they are wrong they will not accept their defeat.
 
That's what we call a general sociopathy :-)
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Sep 12, 2017 - 6:00pm
http://www.wikihow.com/Spot-a-Sociopath
 
LOL Aren't we all to some degree ?
Nasty Added Sep 12, 2017 - 8:00pm
Stone-Eater.
Your link might just as well been labeled Society Today!
We have all become Sociopaths to varying degree's, depending on how involved we are in society.
Henry Ortiz.
Was spot on, that: the problem is that common sense has disappeared
We have replaced common sense with emotional reaction.  And being right is part of the Sociopath  problem plaguing us today.
Doug Plumb.
Is afraid of new ideas. In a way he is right, that there are NO new ideas, but exact circumstance is never duplicated, so everything is new in it's implementation. The Golden Rule has been replaced by the " a general sociopathy " of Stone.
 
Wsucram15.
Many good points, but how can we end argumentation, when every idea is met with argumentation! Most of it is not addressing a point, or arguing a concept, or fact, just ad hominem of "How can you be so stupid."
 
MJ.
I don't understand MJ. She constantly contradicts herself and seems to embrace the negative.
I trust the book club you belonged to was really about books--here in South Africa most book clubs don`t even talk about books but discuss and taste the best whisky!
We might not need a hand to motivate us to read a book, we can do it on our own steam.
 
EXPAT.
It is my time to waste, and I enjoy difficult challenges. You seem to embrace the way of the Sociopath.
wsucram15 Added Sep 12, 2017 - 8:37pm
You begin by saying..I see I have offended you in some way, is there some manner in which we can discuss what I might have said?
OR Can we discuss our differences over A BEER. I would like to understand why you so strongly disagree with I said so we can come to an understanding of each others perspectives or at the very least agree to disagree?
Try this..I loved it.  Hate the beer, loved the concept...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wYXw4K0A3g
 
MJ Added Sep 13, 2017 - 12:32am
Nasty, I did not like your: "There are honest people in this world, perhaps not in SA."
Thomas Sutrina Added Sep 13, 2017 - 9:02am
Welcome to WB, Nasty.  Since we only meet here we can be far more open.  You have chosen not to use your real name which says your worried about what you write effecting your livelihood or your not transparent and need a place to be transparent.
 
Most of the people here give their own opinions that are free in the wind.  Where or how they got to that opinion or on what basis of fact or what they believe is fact is never revealed.  We I believe are no smarter or dumber then those that came before us.
 
Environment has change.  Sails and muscle power environment will create different societies then as mechanized power guided in real time by men, and today mechanized power guided by rules created by men.    
 
But man himself has not changed at all from a hunter and gatherer.  We still come into this world the same and leave the same.  We still create families, neighborhoods, communities, cities, nations, and alliances.   Men make rules to govern these groups.  
 
A man;'s success in one area gives a man a belief that he has a master mind better then most and he can make better decisions for all of his group and with his success has the power to do so,  government of a man or a small group of men setting rules as they go.   The history of man and his societies is predominantly about the actions of master minds leading their groups.   And we can read justifications of why this approach is great and good, Islam and socialism are the leading approaches today.  They are old and built upon earlier similar approaches and the justification has been honed to a fine edge over centuries.  The logic is impeccable.  
 
We still come into this world the same and leave the same, and man is no closer to what come before and after if anything to us when we die.   The one that knows, man defines as God.  Even master minds are not above God but do claim to be closer to God or even a God.   Man has tried to understand God.  Men not part of the government power structure have suggested God's rules  that through history seem to be consistent and like the master mind government justification has been honed to a fine edge, impeccable logic.  Few groups have lived under rules of man that also must not conflict with God's rules.  The nations built on the foundation of Britain's government are the closes in today's world.
 
The discussions we have in the end deal with these two and the conflict between them.   I am always surprised with the absence in a discussion of the actions man has taken under the flag of one of these two.   
From memory of the book: Guns, Germs, and Steel   by Diamond  
Nasty Added Sep 13, 2017 - 11:38am
wsucram15.
You begin by saying..I see I have offended you in some way, is there some manner in which we can discuss what I might have said?
OR Can we discuss our differences over A BEER. I would like to understand why you so strongly disagree with I said so we can come to an understanding of each others perspectives or at the very least agree to disagree?
I don't understand the comment! Was this meant for someone else? I never said I had offended you, and don't see any strong disagreement.
I did refer to the heavy argumentation on this site.
 
Nasty Added Sep 13, 2017 - 11:52am
Tom.
No one on social media is honest. Even those who use their birth name adopt a persona. I don't see any difference. Growing up in NY everybody had a nickname.
My point was that Google allows each of us to form an emotional opinion, and reinforce those opinions as if facts by preponderance of ideologues who agree with us!
GOD is a personal opinion. And many reach the point that their opinions are sacred to them and anyone who challenges their opinion is an enemy to be destroyed.
The citation by SEF explains it.
target="_blank">http://www.wikihow.com/Spot-a-Sociopath
Smart phones and Google have taken away our humanity!
Henry Ortiz Added Sep 13, 2017 - 1:41pm
I would not say that Google and Smart phones have taken away our humanity; I am sure our grandparents would say the same about television.
 
Radio, television, internet, etc. are just means humanity use for communication, the problem comes when "we" allow those means to handle our will.
Katharine Otto Added Sep 13, 2017 - 2:26pm
Nasty,
Now, here's a new idea:  If you're looking to people for smarts, you are looking in the wrong place.  My pet chickens are smart.  They enjoy each moment, they are true to their feelings, they derive enormous pleasure from the simplest things, like taking dirt baths, or chasing and catching a fiddler crab.  They were smart enough to choose me, knowing I would never kill and eat them.  Not only are they smart.  They are beautiful, entertaining as can be, and lively.
 
If you want intelligence, I would highly recommend looking to the animal and plant worlds.  Plants don't have to do anything to survive, except stay in one place, breathe CO2, suck up water, and eat dirt.  You can't get any smarter than that.
Nasty Added Sep 13, 2017 - 3:49pm
Katharine.
I hope you were joking. The figures aren't in yet, but a large part of the chicken population in Texas are no more. Same for the plant life in Florida.
I don't think either of these populations ever read a book, or contemplated the stars.
I would like to think that there is more to life than mere existence. Do your chickens know who Col. Sanders is?
Nasty Added Sep 13, 2017 - 3:54pm
Henry.
I remember that TV used to sign off at 11:00 with the national anthem. When does your smart phone sign off?
The Internet has destroyed communication, not improved it! We now talk AT each other, not with each other. B is prime example.
Nasty Added Sep 13, 2017 - 3:55pm
WB
Thomas Sutrina Added Sep 13, 2017 - 6:45pm
Nasty, this is an opinion, "No one on social media is honest," then why write anything?
Their are people on WB that obvously only present there emotion and they frequently put their foot in their mouth. Writting is not the best method of expressing emotion. few people do it well.
Nasty, "GOD is a personal opinion," I never said is wasn't. I just said that those that examine God come up with very similar examinations Moses, Cicero, Jesus, Aquinis, Lock, King, etc.. Obviously you have never read the Old or New Testiment and the Ten Comandments. The first two clearly do not allow destroying an enamy because you can. Clearly I was not talking about a mentally ill person such as a sociopath since the examinations were accepted by their society and written down and saved being an important document.
Nasty so why did chicken parish in Texas and plant live survived while in Florida plant live perished and chickens survived? Col. Sanders is not at threat, he is dead.
Henry Ortiz Added Sep 13, 2017 - 8:37pm
Nasty, for you tv until 11 pm was normal and apparently acceptable, well for many of our great ggrandparents  was the biggest enemy of family reunion, because they were used to a different way of living, but it was not the tv that created the problem was the misused of it.
 
The same way, Internet and smart phones have not destroyed communication, it is the misused of them.
Nasty Added Sep 13, 2017 - 10:02pm
Thomas.
"No one on social media is honest," then why write anything?

 
Obviously you have never read the Old or New Testiment and the Ten Comandments.

 
Col. Sanders is alive and well around the world!
Nasty Added Sep 13, 2017 - 10:08pm
Henry.
Why do you feel compelled to distort facts presented, that do not agree with your belief? TV used to end at 11:00pm until Jack Parr invented late night TV. It had nothing to do with what was normal and acceptable to me.
 
Of course it is the use, I would say addiction to Internet and Smart Phones that is the problem, and not the device. That is a fallacious argument.
 
I suspect you are an internet junkie who waits for the next Apple device.
Henry Ortiz Added Sep 14, 2017 - 7:35am
No, I don't have an apple, I have an old HTC. Please don't get upset just because I don't agree with you. 
 
We have  two different points of view, I don't think you are right, but it does not mean to me that you are something like you say about me.
 
I am just showing facts, Internet is a great mean of communication, thanks to it I am able to "Skype" with my sons and enjoy my grandchildren. 
 
Finally I am not attached to the devices, as you can see my answers are not but after some hours.
Katharine Otto Added Sep 14, 2017 - 8:55pm
Nasty,
 
If you are so narrow minded as to hope I was joking, you will not recognize new ideas when you hear them. You only affirm my decision to look beyond solipsistic human thinking for wisdom and inspiration.  
To appreciate "mere existence" is the goal of mystics and gurus.  It might help to look into it.
 
I could write a book on factory poultry farming, having been gifted with genetically mutated, scientifically improved chickens that I didn't know were diverted from being chicken McNuggets. Slated for slaughter at six weeks, but for me.  Bred for big breasts, because "people like white meat."  Grew too fast for their cardiovascular and musculoskeletal systems, so started going lame, but they were the sweetest creatures imaginable.  The current chickens are healthy and beautiful, but also with more personality than many people I know.
Nasty Added Sep 15, 2017 - 6:35am
Katharine. I really enjoyed your comment. I can't stop laughing. You are right. Looking to Chickens for wisdom and inspiration never occurred to me.
Bred for big breasts, because "people like white meat."  
A Black guy said that to me once. He was referring to his girlfriend he called a bale of straw!
Are you Blonde?
Thomas Sutrina Added Sep 15, 2017 - 8:00am
Nasty I was responding to YOU.  You seem to forget that you brought up honesty of the media, killing people for no reason, and Col Sanders.
Dr. Rupert Green Added Sep 15, 2017 - 12:59pm
"Nasty...
This is a bloggers site.  If you write anything long and detailed (not that the people arent intelligent)very few will read it. Especially if its not something they want to hear."
 
True @ wsucram15.
 
If one has a nasty habit of writing tomes, they get little read.  It is not like we are reading as reviewers of scholarly articles. Even scholars are told not to write too much to tax the volunteering reviewers.
 
Nasty Added Sep 15, 2017 - 7:11pm
Doc.
You and wsucram15 are all too correct. People want Twitter answers to complex problems, and refuse to invest the effort needed to find real solutions or understanding.
 
This is compounded by the illusion that they can implement their simple solutions by protesting and shouting down the opposition.
 
It becomes intolerable when the inflict violence on others; Antifa and KKK style. (Same Mentality.)
 
 
Nasty Added Sep 15, 2017 - 7:15pm
Thomas. My answer to you was not printed by WB. There is a problem with the software, that Autumn cannot fix. When you copy/paste and make bold, the following plain text is not shown.
I did not redo my answer, as it just wasn't worth the effort.
Saint George Added Sep 15, 2017 - 8:20pm
I came to WB looking for new ideas.
 
Well that was certainly a mistake. Who told you that WB was some sort of hotbed of "new ideas"?
 
I guess you're not a student of intellectual history. To wit:
 
Lesson 1: There are no new ideas. Just new people and new arguments.
 
It's all just "old wine in new bottles."
Nasty Added Sep 15, 2017 - 9:44pm
Saint George.
I meant NEW TO ME! Unlike many of the Google Heads on WB, I don't know everything and do not feel obligated to defend my delusions, only correct them.
"old wine in new bottles."  intellectual history
Do you believe that the founding fathers, or anyone in history could have predicted that there could be too much communication? I certainly didn't. And yet I am now forced to understand that there is NO freedom of speech, and that Media no longer sees their role as to Inform the public.
Wisdom changes with circumstance, and old wine turns to vinegar, if not kept in perspective!
Saint George Added Sep 15, 2017 - 11:49pm
I meant NEW TO ME!
 
Well that covers just about everything since you're obviously a graduate of the public school system.
Nasty Added Sep 16, 2017 - 12:53am
California State University. Did you go to school George?
Saint George Added Sep 16, 2017 - 1:11am
A state school, eh? 
 
Get a refund. You were robbed.
Nasty Added Sep 16, 2017 - 5:51am
 A spurious argument relies on faulty reasoning — and maybe some lies.
If you had gone to school, you would know that.
Saint George Added Sep 17, 2017 - 12:40am
A spurious argument relies on faulty reasoning
 
I was pointing out a fact, not making an argument.
 
Don't know the difference? That's because you never studied logic. No surprise there.
Nasty Added Sep 17, 2017 - 2:11am
Where was your fact Georgie. All you have posted is childish rancor. I won't bother to list the logic classes I aced out .You wouldn't even understand the titles.
Did you finish high school?. Your writing doesn't show it.
Saint George Added Sep 17, 2017 - 2:27am
Where was your fact Georgie.
 
Fact: You were robbed.
Nasty Added Sep 17, 2017 - 5:48am
 
Are you really that stupid, or is this some kind of perverse game?
You are a complete waste of time and I will respond no further.
Dr. Rupert Green Added Sep 17, 2017 - 6:16am
@ Nasty. "Are you really that stupid, or is this some kind of perverse game?
You are a complete waste of time and I will respond no further."
 
Thats nasty.

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