Trump lauds new 'carrier' as it produces 'FEAR'!

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The new $12.9 billion USS Gerald Ford is being deployed into our Atlantic ocean. Our new President claims this will make our enemies “shake with fear”. President Trump says “American might is second to none and we’re getting bigger and better and stronger every day of my administration”. What does this image and rhetoric create for Americans? To me this creates the image that MIGHT makes RIGHT for America. The article in the Arizona Daily Star, July 23, 2017, is headlined with “New Carrier will make enemies shake with fear”.

 

The history of America from its beginning is one of solving problems mostly with the use of MIGHT. America has experienced some 120 wars in its 241 year history. This formula of ‘Might makes Right’ has worked to a degree to impose America’s will upon the planet. We now have another President, the Donald, who desires new increases in our military spending so that MIGHT can prevail over all our enemies. Is this mindset a formula for success?

 

Does the End justify the Means as America seems to think? Does America’s concept of democracy for everyone create peace and happiness for the planet? Personally, I don’t think so! Our world has changed and we now have some nine nations with nuclear weapons who could challenge our strategy of ‘Might makes Right’. America started this trend of solving problems via ‘Might’ (mostly after WWII) and the current nuclear club of nations means that our old mindset of ‘Might makes Right’ is now seriously flawed.

 

If America uses its MIGHT to solve the current perceived problems over in the Middle East, Afghanistan, North Korea, or within any other major geopolitical area, the result will be tit for tat (action/reaction) result. Bomb and get bombed will likely be the result. All the American aircraft carriers, nuclear subs, cruise missiles, and drones will not solve anything going forward (permanently). The philosophy of Might makes Right is now obsolete! But will American leaders recognize this reality? Probably not! Why?

 

It appears that our current President, the Donald, is of the mindset that our military can solve or resolve any major conflict, irrespective of who the enemy might be. This mindset is very dangerous in today’s world IMO. Killing thousands, millions, or billions of people can not solve any of our deep-seated philosophical problems  permanently. In fact, the killing will lead to counter-killing and this mindset is a NO WIN strategy. There are 7.4 billion people on this planet. How many would need to be ‘killed’ in order for America to win its ‘democracy for everyone’ goal?

 

I think America would need to kill nearly everyone on the planet. People do not see values and goals in the same manner. A person of the Islamic faith for example will view reality differently from Americans. A person of a Buddhist, Hindu, Shamanist, or Chondoist faith will view reality differently from most Americans. North Korea is mostly of a Shamanist/Chondoist faith and imposing some type of American secularism on this country would be fatal (in the minds of these leaders). The same goes for Afghanistan where the Taliban will never bow to America’s view of democracy.

 

So all the MIGHT in the world will not solve all the ideological issues on the planet. People believe differently and this will continue going forward. This means that adding another aircraft carrier like the Gerald Ford will not create the ‘fear’ that Mr. Trump assumes. It will create more conflict with the end result leading directly to some type of nuclear, biological, or chemical weapon to counter America’s global desire for hegemony. Think about human nature and real-time beliefs to comprehend this message. How to win friends and influence people, by Dale Carnegie,  would be a good book for our political leaders to read! Enjoy! I am: https://kingdomecon.wordpress.com.

 

Some additional images for your contemplation:

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America’s war building in Washington D.C. called the Pentagon. America spends over $600 billion on military operations annually!

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America patrols the seas so as to rule the planet. Our Naval Power is second to none. The Donald is correct in this assessment!

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America’s air power is also second to none. We can bomb the hell out of any enemy which threatens our control!

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America’s ability to destroy the planet is superior to all. We have the weapons and technology to destroy any enemy completely!

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American air power is continually upgraded to create ‘fear’ in those who view us as enemies. Might does work to a degree!

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Can Russia solve the ISIS problem with its strategy of bombs? Will the ideology be eliminated by killing the ISIS warriors?

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Will Kim Jong-un develop a ‘fear’ mentality due to the aircraft carriers which Trump has sent over to North Korea and environs?

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How has all the Might makes Right philosophy worked these past 72 years (since 1945)? Is the world becoming peaceful and hopeful?

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Might makes Right has been the American mindset since its beginning! Some 120 wars have created the American EMPIRE of today! Can America now Rule the Planet and create peace, security, liberty, and happiness for everyone? What do you think?

Comments

Jeff Jackson Added Jul 24, 2017 - 5:01pm
Donald, consider something else with this carrier. The carrier can speed aid to those who align with us, or just people that we seek to help. The last Filipino disaster who came to help them? Why, the U.S. of course. The Ebola scare in Africa, who came to help them? Why, the U.S. of course. The Haiti disaster, who came to help the Haitians? Why, the U.S., of course. I could go on. Aircraft carriers help lots of people.
 
The U.S. has spent trillions of dollars and much blood protecting those who we consider to be our allies, much much more than other countries do protecting their allies. Consider all of the countries whose aid we came to, if just WWII. Only one country, Finland, I think it was, paid us back for that. Yes, the new aircraft carrier projects American power to the rest of the world. It also offers protection to the allies of America. We protected the gas coming from the Persian Gulf, when we get only 25% or so from that source. Why would we protect the gas that goes to Europe, and why in the world do people think Trump is out of line asking those people whose gas we protect to chip in on the expenses.?
They're coming to the party and drinking the fridge dry, and they aren't bringing anything. We need to stop being the policeman of the world, and yet, and yet, all of these people think Trump is out of line insisting that they pay their fair share. Oh, the irony! Trump is so despised for asking people to pay what they should have been paying all along.
Jenifer Frost Added Jul 24, 2017 - 5:07pm
Aircraft carriers are essential obsolete because they can be taken out with a well placed cruse missile. If figures that someone like Trump hung up on outdated everything would be salivating over something like this. 
Donald Swenson Added Jul 24, 2017 - 5:12pm
Jeff: I think you missed the message of my missive. Trump has lauded this new 12.9 billion carrier because of its military image and potential. He has not lauded it as a humanitarian vessel. The carrier is loaded with military hardware, bombs, missiles, and sailors with a military mission. Yes, it could be used for humanitarian missions at some point down the road, but I don't think that was part of Trump's message when he said 'it will create fear in the minds of our enemies'. The issue is its 'military' mission! D
Jeff Jackson Added Jul 24, 2017 - 5:20pm
Primarily, yes. Again, our allies should be glad to see it. George Washington said: "To be prepared for war is the most effectual means of preserving peace." 
John G Added Jul 24, 2017 - 5:24pm
The US doesn't have allies. It has vassals. Anyone who thinks the military is there to help or the US is a force for good in the world is a victim/apologist for US aggression and the mass murder it is committing in all corners of the globe.
Wake the fuck up.
John G Added Jul 24, 2017 - 5:27pm
The Cubans were far more help in Haiti. And they didn't stay around to economically rape them and appoint puppets to power.
Jenifer Frost Added Jul 24, 2017 - 6:24pm
Cubans were more help in Africa for the Ebola outbreak as well. Anyhow like I said, aircraft carriers are outdated. That's the same reason like battleships that no one builds them any longer. They are too damn big, impossible to properly protect unless you can make them fly and turn invisible like in the Avengers movies (which Trump probably saw and got this hair brained idea from). Trump likes old, outdated, obsolete stuff, that's why he's trying to bring new life to the coal and oil industries who's own executives know are dieing. What will Trump bring back next to make America great again, the rotery phone or beta VHS machines? 
George N Romey Added Jul 24, 2017 - 6:52pm
Another near $13 billion waste.  We could have invested that amount in infrastructure.  
Donald Swenson Added Jul 24, 2017 - 7:04pm
I agree with the comments above. The 12.9 billion is pure waste. The $600 billion on military operations is a waste of human creativity. Our world can not move forward via America's philosophy of might makes right. Do we need new leadership? D
George N Romey Added Jul 24, 2017 - 7:07pm
Donald I don't think the shadow government will ever allow for the kind of leadership we need.  Remember the total spending of the military including off budget items is over $1.2 trillion.  Moreover, a recent audit of the military reported trillions on lost finances.  Money down a black hole.  We could totally redo our infrastructure with that money and ensure every adult has the opportunity to secure a job that fully utilizes their skills and ability.  Like I said an empire in decline.
John G Added Jul 24, 2017 - 7:07pm
Jeff Jackson the mouth breathing knuckle dragger thinks he's better than anyone born outside the USA and that Amerkkka can do not wrong.
America Fuck yeah!!!!
Dino Manalis Added Jul 24, 2017 - 7:21pm
The Pentagon is another bloated federal bureaucracy that needs to be downsized with expert advice, while military spending ought to depend on relations with Moscow and Beijing, hopefully better!
John G Added Jul 24, 2017 - 7:55pm
Money is not the issue. The allocation of real resources aeay from productive socially useful pursuits toward violence aggression and destruction is. 
After nuclear weapons these are the highest form of international terrorism.
John G Added Jul 24, 2017 - 7:58pm
Jenifer, indeed re ebola. The US role was mostly PR. The Gates Foundation/Clinton Foundation model. Make noise, raise money tax free, do nothing.
Saint George Added Jul 24, 2017 - 11:31pm
Aircraft carriers are essential obsolete
 
Sure. That's why all superpowers want them.
Saint George Added Jul 24, 2017 - 11:34pm
After nuclear weapons these are the highest form of international terrorism.
 
Nuclear arsenals and aircraft carriers are not examples of terrorism.
Jenifer Frost Added Jul 24, 2017 - 11:43pm
George the ZioNazi writes "Aircraft carriers are essential obsolete
 
Sure. That's why all superpowers want them." 
 
Sure, that's why no one builds them anymore except for the United States under a delusional moron like Trump. Again, this fact by itself speaks volumes, as does the actual point I brought up about how impossible in the real world they are to defend. 
Donald Swenson Added Jul 25, 2017 - 1:06am
Opposing viewpoints allowed. Yours will not be deleted, William. At least not by me. What the moderator does is out of my control. D
John G Added Jul 25, 2017 - 1:39am
Corey and his Humpty Dumpty use of English again.
Like trying to nail jelly to a wall.
John G Added Jul 25, 2017 - 1:41am
I'm beginning to suspect Corey aka St George is Max Boot's dumber brother.
Saint George Added Jul 25, 2017 - 2:51am
Whom do you shill for, John G?
 
We would all like to know. Do tell.
Saint George Added Jul 25, 2017 - 3:07am
Aircraft carriers are essential obsolete because they can be taken out with a well placed cruse missile.
 
The great self-anointed "expert" in all matters has spoken.
 
However, for more reliable data, see: 
 
Armament: 
RIM-162 ESSM (anti-cruise missile weapon)
RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile (anti-cruise missile weapon);
Close-in weapon system (CIWS)
Jenifer Frost Added Jul 25, 2017 - 3:27am
Right, you clearly have no idea about military logistics "George". If such hopefully defense systems were actually effective there would be a demand for battleships. But I'm sure to hear you tell it there probably is. The flying invisible aircraft carriers of the Avengers movies even start to look "realistic" in your fantasy delusional world. May as well built an ABM missile defense system and pretend it is actually effective just because it's name says so. Oh wait, that's been done. 
Saint George Added Jul 25, 2017 - 3:35am
Whom are you trolling for, Kooky Kemetian?
 
Do tell.
 
Curious minds want to know.
Jenifer Frost Added Jul 25, 2017 - 3:39am
As usual once confronted with superior facts the troll "George" the ZioNazi resorts to outright trolling. A sure sign of intellectual defeat if there ever was. As William would say, I guess I win the internetz. Checkmate. 
John G Added Jul 25, 2017 - 3:43am
What Corey is engaged in here has nought to do with free speech.
Saint George Added Jul 25, 2017 - 3:48am
I don't know who this Corey is that you obsess over — he or she must have done a real number on you, John G. But it's not up to you — here or anywhere else except on your personal website or blog — to determine the definition of "free speech" for everyone else.
 
Get over it, sissy.
John G Added Jul 25, 2017 - 4:27am
If words have no meaning speech is worthless, free or not.
What Corey is engaged in here is not free speech. It is the opposite.
He is engaged in censorship.
Katharine Otto Added Jul 25, 2017 - 2:01pm
Donald,
I wrote a comment about this last night.  Did you delete it, or did it simply get lost?  It was the first one, from what I could tell.
George N Romey Added Jul 25, 2017 - 2:17pm
Katharine funny things were happening last night to this website and this article got published twice.  It might be under the other publishing.  I published an article last night and still has not shown up.
Donald Swenson Added Jul 25, 2017 - 2:39pm
No idea Katherine. I have not deleted any posts. I have noticed a red X next to some posts. Who does this? Click on the X and a post is deleted. This must be the moderator??? D
Donald Swenson Added Jul 25, 2017 - 2:40pm
I , personally, don't believe in deleting alternative opinions. D
Mike Haluska Added Jul 25, 2017 - 3:15pm
Hmmmmm. . . . so there are disadvantages of a large, sophisticated military?  Are there any disadvantages to a weak, poorly armed, military? 
Bill H. Added Jul 25, 2017 - 3:18pm
Trump has the ego issue for sure!
You know how it goes, the smaller the penis, the bigger the pickup truck.
Mike Haluska Added Jul 25, 2017 - 4:16pm
Jenifer -
You're straying far past your area of expertise.  Aircraft carriers are literally floating sovereign US territory that can reach almost anywhere in the world.  They are not only a way to project US military influence, they have been used more often in humanitarian efforts than military efforts.  US Navy Carriers and Hospital ships have come to the rescue during many natural disasters, plagues, droughts, famines, etc. 
 
Outside of nuclear submarines, they serve as the primary deterrent against aggression around the world.  The US has 20 Carriers deployed around the world - the next nearest nations are Japan and France with 4.  There are two a good reasons nobody has ever tried to invade the continental US:
 
1) a well-armed civilian population
2) the most powerful Navy and Air Force on Earth
 
 Let's hope that their numbers and capabilities continue to serve as a deterrent, not a threat.
 
Mike Haluska Added Jul 25, 2017 - 4:30pm
Jenifer -
I personally wish the US would stop fighting wars like Napoleon (land on a beach, fight inland across hundreds of miles, incur huge military and civilian casualties, etc.) and act as "Gort" (see clip below):
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKKE58-06dk
 
 
John G Added Jul 25, 2017 - 4:59pm
Aggression = independence.
John G Added Jul 25, 2017 - 5:00pm
Deterrence = threat of overwhelming violence against independence.
Saint George Added Jul 25, 2017 - 5:33pm
Aggression = independence
 
Black = White;
Slavery = Freedom;
Up = Down
 
(Hat tip: George Orwell, 1984)
George N Romey Added Jul 25, 2017 - 6:37pm
Its a matter of priority.  Do we really need a $13 billion ship roaming the world?  As it is we spend as much as the next seven countries combined.  Ever look at ISIS?  These aren't exactly soldiers getting the best.
John G Added Jul 25, 2017 - 7:08pm
ISIS are getting their equipment and protection from uncle sam.
Donald Swenson Added Jul 25, 2017 - 9:47pm
Jenifer has a point. The carrier is a sitting duck for a small nuclear device or a missile with such. 5000 sailors occupy a huge carrier. I have been on the Kitty Hawk. The vessel is intimidating but with today's nuclear club (like N. Korea, Iran, Pakistan, Russia) these carriers are sitting ducks if America initiates an attack first. Tit for Tat is what will happen. Action/Reaction and thousands of sailors get killed. The old days of being the sole Super Power are over. We now have 9 - 12 nuclear nations (most are enemies of the USA). D
John G Added Jul 26, 2017 - 1:48am
Doesn't need to be a nuke.
Iran has no nuclear weapons nor any nuclear weapons programme or intent.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jul 26, 2017 - 6:20am
Donald
 
VERY good article, saw it late. Completely agree. 
 
Can America now Rule the Planet and create peace, security, liberty, and happiness for everyone? What do you think?
 
It's not a question whether it can or not. It cannot be ALLOWED for the sake of humanity. And it won't happen. No country can destroy 7.5 billion people and think that its own country will be able to survive after in that chaos it created.
 
The US would forever be the pariah for the surviving rest. No chance.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jul 26, 2017 - 6:22am
BTW: Why not trying to create peace, security, liberty and happiness at home first ? Apparently not even that works LOL
Bill Kamps Added Jul 26, 2017 - 1:44pm
While I think the USA can "get by" with a far smaller military, I dont think any of us here would abolish it, or think the USA doesnt need a military.
 
While I dont think we necessarily need a newly designed air craft carrier, since the rest of the world cant yet build one capable of a Viet Nam Era US carrier, the carriers are what gives the military its unique ability, so we do need some.
 
More than an new F35, more than bases in some 80 countries, more than 20 ballistic missile subs ( we probably only need 4-5 ), the carriers can be used for many things, and can be a useful and flexible deterrent.
 
My guess is we could easily reduce the official defense budget by 25%, and that would  mean reducing everything by 25%, and we still would have more capability than the next 2-3  countries combined.
 
 
Donald Swenson Added Jul 26, 2017 - 2:51pm
The American Empire needs the carriers for their image. But is an Empire built upon the philosophy of Might makes Right viable in today's world? Can the Reagan philosophy of Might (military strength) work in a world where the internet rules? The nine other nuclear powers will desire to emulate America and this will lead to more conflict (not less). We need a new model for the world IMO. D
Bill Kamps Added Jul 26, 2017 - 2:58pm
DS,  let's hope it is possible.  For as long as there have been humans, might has made right.  This was not the invention of Reagan, or the US.  It goes back to the Stone Age.  Hopefully we will evolve to something else. 
 
In my opinion nukes give us that chance, because nukes force us to step back from the brink and consider something other than all out war.  The last all out war nearly the destroyed the  world, and the next one likely will.
 
Unfortunately in the meantime, we have developed the  art of "limited war".  Limited in the sense we dont use nukes, but  not so limited for those poor bastards caught in the cross fire.  Dead is still dead.
Mike Haluska Added Jul 26, 2017 - 3:18pm
George - your statement:
 
"Do we really need a $13 billion ship roaming the world?  As it is we spend as much as the next seven countries combined."
 
merits a reply.  The largest single expense in the US budget is ENTITLEMENTS - not Defense. 
Bill Kamps Added Jul 26, 2017 - 3:29pm
Mike, his statement is still true.  In my opinion the question is how much is enough? I will stipulate we want the best military in the world, but no one in politics can say how much is enough, we always need more.
 
We spend as much as the next 7-8 countries combined on the military, and five of those are allies.  We spend 10x what the Russians spend, should we spend 15x or 20x ?  Because we are told 10x isnt enough, Trump wants to raise spending by $60B, which is the total of what the Russians spend.
 
How many carriers do we need?  we have more than the whole rest of the world combined, and those other than ours, are pretty useless.  My question is 8 enough or do we need 15?
 
Did we really need the F35? when was the last time one of our jets was shot down?  The last two wars we fought the other side didnt even have jets.
 
Comparing to entitlements is a false comparison, we spend too much on both. 
Mike Haluska Added Jul 26, 2017 - 3:30pm
Donald - your statement:
 
"The carrier is a sitting duck for a small nuclear device or a missile"
 
needs proper perspective.  First of all, Aircraft Carriers go on patrol as the key weapon in what is called a "Carrier Strike Group" consisting of:
 

a guided missile cruiser � multi-mission surface combatant. Equipped with Tomahawks for long-range strike capability.
two guided missile destroyers � multi-mission surface combatants, used primarily for anti-air warfare (AAW)
an attack submarine � in a direct support role seeking out and destroying hostile surface ships and submarines
a combined ammunition, oiler, and supply ship � provides logistic support enabling the Navy's forward presence; on station, ready to respond

If necessary, additional new "Stealth Battleships" with remarkable speed and invisibility to radar can be deployed.  The main function of the non-carrier ships is to protect the carrier from air, sea or underwater attack.  An attack by nuclear weapon against an Aircraft Carrier is an attack on the US and thus a declaration of nuclear war . . . which will surely result in a counter assault which would be suicidal to the aggressor. 
 
 
William Stockton Added Jul 26, 2017 - 3:37pm
Ya, all the people here from western countries criticizing a new boat, created by Obama, the peace-prize winner, and christened by Trump . . . all the while China and Russia build their own new boats.
 
Too bad Europe's men had their nutz extracted by Merkel and stuffed into her purse . . . they relax, testicaless, in the military cover and security of the USA armed forces.
 
Have a great and peaceful day on us!
Bill Kamps Added Jul 26, 2017 - 3:38pm
I will agree with Mike.  The carrier group is not there to fight a nuclear war.  It is there for all the other contingencies which make up the modern world.  They have proven to be a very flexible way to project power, which is almost impossible without them.  The reason the  Russians and Chinese have to stay pretty close to home is that they lack the kind of carriers that we have.  Yes they are dabbling in developing their own, but the ones they have are no comparison to a US carrier group.
John G Added Jul 26, 2017 - 4:06pm
Project power = threaten with violent intent.
John G Added Jul 26, 2017 - 4:08pm
The vast majority of Europeans want your standover racket gone.
And they pay a heavy price for their occupation.
William Stockton Added Jul 26, 2017 - 4:17pm
John, "The vast majority of Europeans want your standover racket gone."
 
So do most people in the USA.  
 
It would be a fantastic day if European men grew their nutsacks back, willing to pay for their own homegrown defense, and could look after themselves in a very dangerous world.  
 
Those really expensive boats, like the one we just launched, aren't designed to protect only the USA.  They are designed to protect the millions of Europeans who neglect to cover even their fair share of the costs for these really expensive marvels.
 
 The USA is not forcing our way into western countries, we are being obligated and obliged!
John G Added Jul 26, 2017 - 4:22pm
What utter untruth. NATO is a standover racket. The Europeans pay through the nose to your defence contractors and they pay for your troops to occupy their countries and make them targets.
The US defends no one. There are no threats other than the USA.
William Stockton Added Jul 26, 2017 - 4:23pm
... and European workers demand more paid days off from work.  More socialism . . . 
 
Europe is turning into a frigging vacation resort while Americans still need to work 60 hrs / week to keep food on the table.
 
Ya, I say America should go back to isolationism.  But we all know where that would lead . . .  Europe would be a smoking cinder in less than a decade.
 
Whats more popular in Europe than a fascist ruler?  A land war.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jul 26, 2017 - 4:33pm
Too bad Europe's men had their nutz extracted by Merkel and stuffed into her purse . . . they relax, testicaless, in the military cover and security of the USA armed forces.
 
Bullshit. Merkel and their other US slaves do what they're being told. Do you live HERE ? If not, move your body 5000 miles away from your save haven over here.
 
People who never experienced a real war on their soil don't have a fucking clue. WE have. YOU US guys don't. You keep your house clean by fighting through proxies.
 
What for ? Look around. Instead of improving the lives of US citizens you waste billions on wars abroad in the erroneous thought that the world must become a big McDonalds.
 
The rest of the world just shakes head about a country which is so ignorant towards other cultures and thinks it can lead the world - by war and destruction.
 
LOL
John G Added Jul 26, 2017 - 4:34pm
You are the ugly American.
Europe is a neoliberal wonderland. No socialism allowed.
Why are Americans so stupid to work 60 hours a week?
War is popular in America. Not so much anywhere else.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jul 26, 2017 - 4:37pm
It would be a fantastic day if European men grew their nutsacks back, willing to pay for their own homegrown defense, and could look after themselves in a very dangerous world
 
WE CAN AND WE WILL. And we choose our "enemies" as we wish and not what the US declares who our enemies are.
 
We want to get the US OUT OF HERE. Are you so stupid to think we can decide ? The US decides, as long as NATO exists, and our politicians are US asslickers,
 
They don't even have the courage to say: Yes, we have so many refugees because the US fucked up the whole ME in order to save the US dollar.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jul 26, 2017 - 4:42pm
John
 
Thanks. The rest who is for US hegemony - fuck you.
 
There is enough space for all of us, and we don't need the most superficial "culture" being spread all over -> dumbing down syndrome. Started with Disney and now we got hee man huh gangsta rap and stuff being overfed with junk food.
 
Do we need that ?? No.
William Stockton Added Jul 26, 2017 - 4:42pm
Stone,  "Merkel and their other US slaves do what they're being told."
 
Like I said, how about European dudes growing a pair and stop being "USA slaves"!!  Good lord.  And where are your articles about that Stone?  I would try adding like 50 votes to that article!  
 
I guarantee you, 99% of Americans absolutely hate being tied to the defense of most of the world's countries.  Huge exposure.  Huge costs with no direct benefits.  
 
Thank you and have another restful and peaceful day compliments of the USA armed forces.
 
William Stockton Added Jul 26, 2017 - 4:45pm
You know Stone, I think we are in what they call "violent agreement"!
John G Added Jul 26, 2017 - 4:48pm
You're not listening. Nor will you.
The USA is not a force for peace.
YOU do not pay for anyone's defence.
YOU are a slave but are too propagandised and stupid to realise it.
That's why you work 60 hours a week for your slave owners and then blame Europeans for it.
How dumb can you get?
William Stockton Added Jul 26, 2017 - 4:52pm
No John.  I can get so much dumber.  Then I would become just like so many European men on extended vacations.
John G Added Jul 26, 2017 - 5:01pm
Europeans pay your 'defence' contractors to be in NATO. It is a standover racket. It costs you nothing.
Europe has no enemies to defend itself from.
What part of this don't you understand?
William Stockton Added Jul 26, 2017 - 5:04pm
John, "What part of this don't you understand?"
Uh . . . every sentence.  
But go ahead and believe John.  Just believe and it is true!  
Meanwhile back at the European vacation house . . .
 
. . . have a restful and peaceful day compliments of the USA armed forces!
 
Cheers
William Stockton Added Jul 26, 2017 - 5:17pm
You see John, you and I . . . we both . . . absolutely hate this "deal" we find ourselves.  We hate being your "protector", and you hate us being your "owner".  So why don't we agree we despise this situation equally?
Then we can get to a solution which means Europe grow back their huevos, go back to work and pay for their own defense (if you dont need it, then dont build it).  
And try writing that article and see how many Europeans find that plan an epic walk in fantasyland.
 
Every European knows very well what would happen if the USA dropped its cover . . . Europeans would be at each other's neck in no time.  Or that massive red giant to their north would only need to snarl in their general direction, and they would be demanding, yes DEMANDING the USA to snarl back.
 
Shameful situation indeed
 
John G Added Jul 26, 2017 - 5:20pm
I'm not a European.
Massive red giant to their north?
Dumb as a bag of hammers.
William Stockton Added Jul 26, 2017 - 5:30pm
Oh, I was being polite to you.  I won't make that mistake twice.
John G Added Jul 26, 2017 - 5:33pm
LOLz. Tone policing when the going gets tough. Some balls.
William Stockton Added Jul 26, 2017 - 5:43pm
Oh, I thought our discussion was done.  And why would you want to hear anything from this bag of hammers?  Who's the dumb one you ask?
John G Added Jul 26, 2017 - 5:47pm
I'm still laughing about this "massive red giant" to Europe's north.
Mars?
Jenifer Frost Added Jul 26, 2017 - 6:03pm
"massive red giant" to Europe's north.
Mars?
Yes, I'm curious about that one as well. North of Europe is the North Pole, and despite Climate Change it's far from red. 
Saint George Added Jul 26, 2017 - 6:12pm
Europe has no enemies to defend itself from.
 
ChuckleZ, snortZ, and chortleZ . . .!
 
The great denialist-inflationist-leftist-fascist has opined!
 
Just a few selections from recent history:
 
 
21 Feb 1970
Switzerland
Swissair Flight 330 bombing
47 killed[22]
PFLP-GC [Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine]
 
 
5 Sep 1972
Germany
Munich massacre
17 killed[25]
Black September [Palestinian terrorist group]
 
17 Dec 1973
Italy
Rome airport attacks
34 killed, 22 injured[26]
Black September
 
 
8 Sep 1974
Greece
TWA Flight 841 bombing
88 killed[30]
Abu Nidal Organization
 
12 Apr 1985
Spain
El Descanso bombing
18 killed, 82 injured[41]
Islamic Jihad
 
 
27 Dec 1985
Italy, Austria
Rome and Vienna airport attacks
23 killed (inc. 4 perps.), 139 injured
Abu Nidal Organization
 
11 Jul 1988
Greece
City of Poros ship attack
11 killed (inc. 1 perp.), 98 injured[49]
Abu Nidal Organization
 
11 Mar 2004
Spain
Madrid train bombings
192 killed, 2,050 injured
Al-Qaeda
 
7 Jul 2005
UK (England)
2005 London bombings
56 killed, (inc. 4 perps.), 784 injured
Al-Qaeda
 
7 Jan 2015
France
January 2015 Île-de-France attacks
20 killed (inc. 3 perps.), 22 injured
Al-Qaeda in Arabia
Islamic State
 
13 Nov 2015
France
November 2015 Paris attacks
137 killed (inc. 7 perps.), 368 injured
Islamic State
 
22 Mar 2016
Belgium
Brussels bombings
35 killed (inc. 3 perps.), 340 injured
Islamic State
 
14 Jul 2016
France
Nice truck attack
87 killed (inc. 1 perp.), 434 injured
Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel
 
 
19 Dec 2016
Germany
Berlin Christmas market attack
12 killed, 56 injured
Anis Amri
 
22 May 2017
UK (England)
Manchester Arena bombing
23 killed (inc. 1 perp.), 250 injured
Salman Ramadan Abedi
 
3 June 2017
UK (England)
June 2017 London Bridge attack
11 killed (inc. 3 perps.), 48 injured
Under investigation (but what do you want to bet it has something to do with Islam?)
 
Europe has no enemies to defend itself from? Funny. Tell us another one.
 
John G Added Jul 26, 2017 - 6:24pm
Operation Gladio. NATO false flag terrorism.
Al Qaeda. A US organisation.
The USA is the greatest purveyor of violence on the planet by a very, very long way.
 
Jenifer Frost Added Jul 26, 2017 - 6:34pm
Virtually all those incidents that "George" cites are terrorist attacks. How does a aircraft carrier help with that? Launch a squad of bombers against the terrorists maybe? Never mind that +90% of the dead would obviously be civilians, and never mind the infrastructure damage and cost. About as logical as using dynamite to deal with a housefly. 
John G Added Jul 26, 2017 - 6:40pm
Neocons always want more 'defence' spending. Israel and the MIC is their thang.
William Stockton Added Jul 26, 2017 - 6:46pm
Frost, those are paramilitary groups in those events.  What, do you think those groups just pass around a hat for funding?
 
A carrier floats on the ocean.  Goes wherever the source of funding may be.  Uses big bombs from fancy planes to remove the funding sources.  Not hard to do the math here.
Jenifer Frost Added Jul 26, 2017 - 6:54pm
Stockton most terrorist groups like Al Qaeda and ISIL are American created and funded. So I guess they will be sending the carrier group to bomb Washington DC? 
William Stockton Added Jul 26, 2017 - 6:58pm
Frost, ok, ok.  LOL!
If your mind was more closed, you would need to be hooked up to life support.
Jenifer Frost Added Jul 26, 2017 - 7:15pm
You are the one with a closed and uneducated mind if you seriously don't know American arms terrorists, created Al Qaeda and ISIL, and even formulated the illegal Nazi coup in Ukraine
The Neo-Nazi Question in Ukraine | HuffPost - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-hughes/the-neo-nazi-question-in_b_4938747.html
Among other war crimes...
“Reminder: The Last US-Russian Ceasefire In Syria, US Droned Syrian Soldiers” https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/reminder-the-last-us-russian-ceasefire-in-syria-us-droned-syrian-soldiers-5742e5e7f0ec
Article: How America Armed Terrorists in Syria | OEN - https://www.opednews.com/populum/pagem.php?f=How-America-Armed-Terroris-by-Gareth-Porter-American-Hypocrisy_Armed-Forces_Assad_CIA-170623-437.html
Edward Snowden even revealed that American spys installed sabotage devices into the internet and power infrastructure in our supposed "allies" (ie: vassels) in case they ever decide to not follow American commands. Your entire "America is the White hat good guys" montra William is based on either ignorance or self-delusion. "lol" that. 
 
William Stockton Added Jul 26, 2017 - 7:23pm
Ya Frost.  ME is a big whack-a-mole board.  Smack one paramilitary group and another pops up . . . sometimes an old ally.
 
This isn't that hard to figure out.  Why make it more than this?  
 
Oh, I know why you do this.  You are probably the type that thinks they have a solution for a "free-energy" machine.  Or a solution for faster-than-lightspeed!  Despite what science and everyone else says.  LOL  Cookoo!
Jenifer Frost Added Jul 26, 2017 - 7:26pm
When you can't prove your point about the subject at hand you go off on a ridiculous rant about unrelated things William. I guess I win the internetz. LOL. 
Saint George Added Jul 26, 2017 - 7:39pm
Al Qaeda. A US organization.
 
LOLZ! SnortZZZ! ChortleZZZ!
 
Your material is so funny! And your delivery is so droll!
Jenifer Frost Added Jul 26, 2017 - 7:48pm
"George" the ZioNazi as usual has nothing to offer but delusionalism, terrorist backer excuses, and idiotic anti-intellectual trolling. Considering that he supports the second biggest terrorist state on earth Israel it's no surprise. 
John G Added Jul 26, 2017 - 7:51pm
Stockton. This isn't that hard to figure out.  Why make it more than this?
 
Because what you say isn't the truth. It is your country behind all this violence. The muslim world has been torn asunder by western imperialism.
These takfiris are imperial operatives.
AQ, ISIS, Boko Haram etc etc etc are run by the USA.
Saint George Added Jul 26, 2017 - 7:54pm
 anti-intellectual trolling
 
". . . I don’t think there are any trolls on Writer Beat." — Autumn Cote
 
QED
Katharine Otto Added Jul 26, 2017 - 8:14pm
Ooh la la.  Donald is right.  Might does not make right. I believe that right makes might.  The US tries to achieve respect through fear, but it is having the opposite effect.  If we don't contain ourselves, our enemies are likely to gang up on us, and then we will really have something to whine about.
 
Lately I'm embarrassed to be American.  IF the US weren't provoking and meddling in foreign countries, we may all enjoy a little peace and a lot more safety.
 
Support our troops.  Bring them home and put them to work doing something useful.
 
William S., if 99% of Americans hate being tied to the defense of other countries, why do we have military bases in 770 countries?  How many other countries have military bases here?  
Donald Swenson Added Jul 26, 2017 - 8:22pm
The American empire rules over money, sanctions, oceans, banking, international trade organizations, and most land areas. Is it now time to back off and get our own house in order? Congress has some 9 percent support. Our President some 38 percent. Is it now time to get focused on solving our internal problems and  retrench from imposing our policies on foreigners? A house divided can not stand!!! D
William Stockton Added Jul 26, 2017 - 8:26pm
Katherine, "why do we have military bases in 770 countries"
 
They get (nearly) free military protection from the greatest military power on the planet.  For them to provide that same protection for themselves, they would bankrupt their economy.
 
In a way, the American military has become a contract militia force for these other countries.  Although, we are not being compensated directly -- mostly.  The USA gets good trade deals out of the bargain.  And there is an alliance/partnership in social values which promote many different modes of economic cooperation.
 
It is blatantly false that the USA is coercing countries into building bases on their land.  These countries desperately want the USA to be there.  Otherwise, they could just kick us out.  And that has happened many times as well.
Jenifer Frost Added Jul 26, 2017 - 9:22pm
Here you go knuckleheads. I'm sure this might come as a huge surprise to people who have been living in a cave the last few years, or morons who get their (fake) news only from corporate mainstream NATO/American propaganda media outlets, but it’s fairly common knowledge to all informed people everywhere. Of course pro-terrorist people like "George" the ZioNazi already knew all this, but pretending they don't to spread disinformation is typical of their ilk.
America Created Al-Qaeda and the ISIS Terror Group | Global Research - http://www.globalresearch.ca/america-created-al-qaeda-and-the-isis-terror-group/5402881
And..
“How the United States Created Al-Qaeda” https://medium.com/@jakethornhill/how-the-united-states-created-al-qaeda-2bbe129faf57
And...
Watch "Hillary Clinton admits America created, funded and armed Al Qaeda / ISIS terrorists" on YouTube - https://youtu.be/FsIp1TDwFLs
And...
How the US Helped Create Al Qaeda and ISIS - https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/09/19/how-the-us-helped-create-al-qaeda-and-isis/
And there is a LOT more on this, just Google Al Qaeda American creation. As I said before, this is very well known, not some secret or debatable unknown. Only the extremely ignorant don't know, or the liar propagandists pretend it's otherwise than the truth. But it's pretty safe to say that this unquestionably proves that "George" the ZioNazi is a terrorist apologizst and liar troll. 
Saint George Added Jul 26, 2017 - 9:29pm
". . . I don’t think there are any trolls on Writer Beat." — Autumn Cote
 
QED
Jenifer Frost Added Jul 26, 2017 - 9:34pm
FACTS OUTWEIGH OPINIONS YOU ZIONAZI FASCIST - Jenifer Frost. 
William Stockton Added Jul 26, 2017 - 9:36pm
Frost, most people don't disagree that USA had funded and armed indigenous counter-insurgency groups to combat a more "evil" threat in those regions.  Only later to have these same "allies" turn on the USA and become the next biggest enemy.
This has been going on for decades.
 
Your argument is that the USA is STILL funding these groups.  No.  You are wrong.
 
Maybe this is news to you.  Recently, the NYT reported a change in this decades-old policy by the Trump administration.  Great news in fact.
Jenifer Frost Added Jul 26, 2017 - 9:47pm
The New York Times is corporate mainstream media fake news. As for Trump, time will tell if he actually stops funding terrorists or returns to doing the will of the Deep State like Obama and the last several presidents. 
Saint George Added Jul 26, 2017 - 9:49pm
The New York Times is corporate mainstream media fake news.
 
Jennnifer Frrost's tweets on Twitter are fringe fake news.
Jenifer Frost Added Jul 26, 2017 - 11:14pm
"George" the ZioNazi terrorist advocate who can't even spell simple names says,. Wait, who gives a fuck what a zero credability ZioNazi terrorist advocate who can't even spell simple names. 
John G Added Jul 26, 2017 - 11:19pm
Stockton. They get (nearly) free military protection from the greatest military power on the planet.
Nope. They pay for it and they don't want this mafia style 'protection'. Get out of your media bubble.
 
Saint George Added Jul 26, 2017 - 11:42pm
". . . I don’t think there are any trolls on Writer Beat." — Autumn Cote
 
QED
Jenifer Frost Added Jul 26, 2017 - 11:50pm
What a moron, endlessly repeating one's self is trolling. Trolling for terrorists is trolling (OBVIOUSLY). If it walks and quacks like a duck it's a duck. If it repeats itself like a troll and trolls like a troll it's a troll. The vermin asswipe "George" the ZioNazi is a troll (because he TROLLS). Autumn is the owner of this site not it's infallible God her opinions are trumped by outright actions and facts. Fact is when you troll YOU ARE A TROLL. 
Jenifer Frost Added Jul 26, 2017 - 11:52pm
And BTW terrorist advocates are defacto troll fucks who's opinions are meaningless as they are inhuman vermin with zero credability. 
Jenifer Frost Added Jul 27, 2017 - 12:07am
Incidentally, being that unlike neoliberal and neocon extremists I don't live in a filter bubble. I don't shun right wing news, just fake news from zero credability corporate mainstream media outlets. Outlets like the New York Times which discredited themselves with their censorship and slander "PropOrNot" story and promotion, which attempted to demonize and ridicule any independent media that rejected the corporate mainstream media Russiagate conspiracy theories - which have been debunked as of late. After being threatened with several lawsuits the New York Times withdrew their support for PropOrNot, but they never apologized or admitted wrongdoing. Thus they never reclaimed their credibility and will be seen as fake news by all ethical people until and unless that happens. 
 
But anyhow, I got this from conservative Reagan administration alumni Paul Craig Roberts, it's informative regarding the supposed withdrawal of support for terrorists by the Trump regime.... 
Be Suspicious of the Fake News that US is withdrawing from Syria & ceasing to arm 'Rebels' - http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/07/22/suspicious-fake-news-us-withdrawing-syria-ceasing-arm-rebels

Donald Swenson Added Jul 27, 2017 - 1:19am
As I right, Kim Jong un is preparing some type of military action. Can he actually challenge America's military? The tension is growing daily. Will Trump use his Trump card to preempt Kim's challenge? What is the end game on this issue??? D
John G Added Jul 27, 2017 - 1:32am
As I right, Kim Jong un is preparing some type of military action.
Is he? You actually believe your media?
Poor lamb.
Saint George Added Jul 27, 2017 - 2:23am
I believe the Korean media. And they aver that Kim Jong Nut-job is preparing some time of military action.
 
John G is a shillsky; a Russian shill. Who's paying you, John G?
John G Added Jul 27, 2017 - 3:31am
Yawn.
Saint George Added Jul 27, 2017 - 3:42am
Yawn.
 
A lie, as usual.
John G Added Jul 27, 2017 - 4:22am
You know, Romey is dumb as fuck, but in some ways he's smarter than you.
You're both cowards though.
Saint George Added Jul 27, 2017 - 4:24am
I don't know about that, but I do know you're an overpaid Russian shill.
 
Whatever it is you're getting for trolling this site, you're not worth it.
Donald Swenson Added Jul 28, 2017 - 12:56am
John refuses to be transparent about his history. Why? Must be a reason. D
John G Added Jul 28, 2017 - 2:08am
Swenson refuses to answer a single straightforward question put to him.
Must be a reason.
What difference would knowing my university make to you?
It's entirely irrelevant and I've told you why.
But you're too ignorant and rude to read the responses to your demands.
With scumbag zionists like Corey and Kelly hanging around on this site, it isn't good policy to make it easy for them to identify you.
Donald Swenson Added Jul 28, 2017 - 4:13pm
John, where are you living? Country? D 
John G Added Jul 28, 2017 - 5:30pm
Answer the question you dishonest old goat.
Dannl Yoder Added Jul 29, 2017 - 10:15am
Great post, Donald, 308 ( ouch! 3+8=11..Illuminati! Haha)
Too bad most of the comments are infighting 
Imagine the warship here under that influence.
 
Kirk: Scotty how's the engines?
Scotty: up yours, neo Nazi dumb as nails! You wudna know an en JINE from a vaJINE!
 
Kirk: You egotesticle "Scooty" Take the Meds Bones gave ya!"
Spock: That would not be logical 'Nemo', why would "Bones" give Scotty meds?You been reading too many
Klingon survivel stories!"
Sulu: ooh captain, you handsome boy! There is a man overboard, shall I RESUSCITATE him, you know ala au naturale, mouth to mouth? Hee hee"
Spock: that is not a man, it's "Bruthee"  the sexually reorpha..reorgis.. Illogical misfit that has taken a year off from shield duty, we have been 'track beamed' twice, illegally boarded 5 times, and lost 6 million Jews because In stead of having shields up, Bruthee and the other reagress...refute...illogicals have filled sick bay for a entire stardate! It would be illogical to rescue Bruthee"
Kirk: Spock, you bag of hammers, Zionist Nazi hunter! He has the key to the mess hall!
Scotty: Well, KORK, you want an enJINE report or NO?"
Kirk: No! Sulu set a course for Disneyland, I am docking there, and leaving every frigging one of you there., The North Koreans are on our Radar"
Spock: that blip is not North Korea, you embicile,  it is a meteorite.. Wait, never mind, Super man just shoved it toward the Russian federation. Things just got interesting!
Bill Kamps Added Jul 29, 2017 - 3:34pm
William, I do think it is funny that we complain the Europe doesnt pull  its weight for its defense.  And yet, they spend 4X what the Russians spend on their military.  And yet, other than the UK,  they probably cant field a division ready to fight, so what do they spend all that money on?  Fancy hotels, dinners and wine?
 
Since Europe doesnt have the burden of maintaining nukes, like the Russians, since they have a lot less area to defend, you would think they would have at least as many tanks and planes as the Russians  have near Europe, therefore making it unnecessary for the  US to have conventional weapons over there.  I  have no problem providing a nuclear shield, because that comes with little extra cost given we have nukes anyway.  I do have a problem with all the  bases, and conventional troops we have in Europe.
John G Added Jul 29, 2017 - 5:10pm
Most of their spending is on US troops and equipment. You have it backarsewards.
Wick Burner Added Jul 30, 2017 - 10:26am
I know there's a disclaimer on that map at the bottom, but there should be at least 3 more blue dots on Australia and one on New Zealand.
FWIW, I think the US will be able to conduct almost any military endeavour it turns its mind to, but could very easily fall foul of exposure on too many fronts.  Total war could see it all fall apart very rapidly.  Either way, we'd all be cooked.
William Stockton Added Jul 30, 2017 - 12:09pm
Bill, This link is pretty interesting on the breakdown in cost for USA military spending.  Nukes are pretty low.  Having a navy is almost 1/2 the military budget which most European countries don't have as well.
Turns out that patrolling or controlling (if you will) 71% of the earth's surface is quite expensive.
Bill Kamps Added Jul 30, 2017 - 12:47pm
Agreed William, navies are very expensive.  It is why we really have the only long distance credible one.
 
So Europe has little to no navy, no nukes, but budgets that still are pretty large.  It is a red herring when people say they dont spend enough.  Europe spends plenty, apparently they just piss it away, since they dont get much defense for their military spending. 
 
Christ, Italy spends 60% more than Israel, and almost half as much as the Russians, yet I bet they cant field two competent brigades.
Donald Swenson Added Jul 30, 2017 - 1:12pm
The Trump war machine will likely act over North Korea soon. This, to me, is terrifying. Where does this lead? We need new leadership. D
William Stockton Added Jul 30, 2017 - 1:37pm
Donald, "The Trump war machine will likely act over North Korea soon. "
How do you justify your fears?  Or just follow whatever the MSM tells you to fear or think?  Trump wants China to put pressure on NK.  This is his priority.  He knows very well a new war with NK is failed diplomacy and a failed presidency.
 
"We need new leadership"
And I suppose 6 months of a new administration in USA is not new? ha.
Or perhaps you meant new leadership in NK?  If you are going to advocate new leadership, then why not for 26 million people who are living in a modern version of an Orson Wells novel (1984). wow.
Bill Kamps Added Jul 30, 2017 - 3:43pm
Who are we to demand new leadership in NK?
 
Does our government think the best way to limit NK's nuclear program, is demand new leadership?  Seems to me that has the reverse effect.
 
Why do we think it is possible to keep countries from getting nuclear weapons?  The technology is 80 years old.  Enough people know how to do it, and for money they will show others.
 
I dont see how we force NK to stop their nuclear program, or why we think it is essential.  Russia has had the ability to rain nukes on us for 50 years, and yet they haven't done it.  In fact no one has used a nuke since 1945 because they are weapons of deterrence, not weapons of offense.   Why do we believe this time is different ?
 
Do we really believe NK will commit suicide by nuking us, as soon as they are able ?  or maybe they just cant build air craft carriers, and this is the cheap way for them to feel more safe.
 
I say let them have their nukes, and stop the saber rattling.  Just ignore them and let them continue living in the sad state.
 
 
George N Romey Added Jul 30, 2017 - 3:52pm
The difference might be Putin is a rational human being that isn't trying to prove that he can run with the big boys, he already can. However, threatening NK will only probably make matters worst.  We need the involvement of the Chinese and SK that have as much to lose as well as Russia.  But in the current climate Jingping and Putin might be so obliging. 
William Stockton Added Jul 30, 2017 - 3:54pm
Bill,  "Who are we to demand new leadership in NK?"
 
I certainly am not advocating that.  Mr. Swenson is advocating new leadership . . . somewhere.
I agree, NK is just a nuisance.  Next problem.  
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jul 30, 2017 - 4:04pm
William
 
I guarantee you, 99% of Americans absolutely hate being tied to the defense of most of the world's countries
 
When you don't attack you get no enemies. We're not stupid, and we're NOT afraid of Russia. We're fucking tired of that propaganda which only serves to keep US forces and bombs here for BUSINESS reasons.
 
Defense ? Against whom ? LOL
 
Holy shit. Nobody who has some kind of brain believes that bullshit anymore.
 
US isolation would be something we and a lot of other countries would welcome. At least until your MIC and all those criminal networks are eliminated and you have a government which is capable for more that calling each other cocksuckers and uses Twitter to make "World Politics"....
John G Added Jul 30, 2017 - 5:29pm
Nukes are under the Department of Energy budget.
Arrbyy Added Jul 30, 2017 - 6:59pm
I've bumped into a few interesting news items recently related to aircraft carriers. See my post titled "Q. What is war good for? A. Employing fools and causing destruction." (http://tinyurl.com/y98cskms)
 
We can recall John Kiesling's resignation letter to George W. Bush once John learned that Bush was going to attack Iraq. This is part of what he wrote:
 
=== =
It is inevitable that during twenty years with the State Department I would become more sophisticated and cynical about the narrow and selfish bureaucratic motives that sometimes shaped our policies. Human nature is what it is, and I was rewarded and promoted for understanding human nature. But until this Administration it had been possible to believe that by upholding the policies of my president I was also upholding the interests of the American people and the world. I believe it no longer.
The policies we are now asked to advance are incompatible not only with American values but also with American interests. Our fervent pursuit of war with Iraq is driving us to squander the international legitimacy that has been America’s most potent weapon of both offense and defense since the days of
Woodrow Wilson. We have begun to dismantle the largest and most effective web of international relationships the world has ever known. Our current course will bring instability and danger, not security…
…Why does our President condone the swaggering and contemptuous approach to our friends and allies this Administration is fostering, including among its most senior officials. Has “oderint dum metuant” really become our motto?
= ===
 
'Oderint dum metuant' means 'let them hate, as long as they fear'.
William Stockton Added Jul 30, 2017 - 7:52pm
Stone, "Defense ? Against whom ? LOL"
 
Well, many people would say, "yourselves.  That's who".
 
Europe has never proved to the world that it could go a decade without killing each other in a massive land-war.  And many people, including people in your own country, don't want to take that chance and kick the USA out.  Wake the hell up Stone.  Just because you haven't had a major war there in the last 70 years, doesn't mean anything other than the USA has been your peacekeepers for 70 years.
John G Added Jul 30, 2017 - 7:57pm
The USA as a peace keeper?
Laughable. It's been at war for pretty much its entire existence as a legal entity.
Saint George Added Jul 30, 2017 - 8:50pm
I don't know about that, but I do know you're an overpaid Russian shill.
 
Whatever it is you're getting for trolling this site, you're not worth it.
William Stockton Added Jul 30, 2017 - 9:10pm
SG, haha. 
William Stockton Added Jul 30, 2017 - 9:15pm
Stone, I wasn't being fair.  Perhaps Europe deserves their own solidarity and to be just left to themselves.  I would support that 100%.   
But America's leaders has its own problems right now and couldn't make a good decision if their lives depended on it.
 
Perhaps you would be best to criticize your own gov for not taking that stand as well.  It is a debate that needs to happen in light of the cold war is long gone . . . oh, wait . . .
The cold war is back . . . now that our dumbass Congress passed sanctions and Russia is retaliating.  Gawd the dumb fuck leaders we have here.  Sorry Stone.  I tried.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jul 31, 2017 - 9:25am
William
 
I think we Europeans have learnt our lesson by now. Bit I of course agree on
 
The cold war is back . . . now that our dumbass Congress passed sanctions and Russia is retaliating.  Gawd the dumb fuck leaders we have here.
 
Ours are no better. Why ? Because they are in the same club.

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