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Ok instead of debating who is right or wrong about an issue, lets talk about something most people (not all) but most enjoy.  Music...or at least who catches your attention in a genre.

Now this is my son live, its relevant to one of my answers later..  

look at 1:48 and 3:19 and you will see a thin guy in white playing bass and singing,thats my kid I believe in Florida, not sure.

I didnt notice it but his bass is all messed up from shows. 

This is another promo video..  you can hear my son more in here.

Here is the back cover of the 2016 ep

My son is to the right in the rear.  This is no local kids band and he worked hard for this, its not all fun and games.  But I am proud of him.  Anyhow..this stuff isnt for everyone so lets move on to my list...:)


Now I asked this on SEF's column but want answers from everyone that likes music, especially people that love music.  Its really difficult to narrow down just a single artist that is your favorite or the best so  list a couple of bands that make the top 3 of all time bands in that category for talent, skill and influence (but if you do that you must state that).  But also if you want reflect on a live experience or why they are the best to you.


Don’t list 30 bands, just list them by category, its not going to be written on your gravestone and if you don’t know the category, look it up or say I don’t know.

It’s a discussion on talent and live performances..nothing more. Plus it gives people an insight into maybe music they don’t know or forgot.  If you don’t know them, listen to the links, but PLEASE provide our own, you might have something interesting I never heard.

Lets see what happens.  BTW, “old school” means anything before now.  Im going to say 2005 and before.

You know what I want to know from the music fiends on here? Mostly because you learn a lot this way and might hear something you haven't before.  I have a predisposition for talented people, especially those that multi-instrumentalists. For example; Prince, Todd Rungren, Sufjan Stevens, John Entwistle, Dave Grohl.   They are not listed for the most part.

Here are mine-
favs- could not have seen some of these
Classic Rock- Beatles, did see McCartney
Classic Punk- Ramones -did see them 8 times, maybe more some clubs didnt give stubs or tickets.

New Punk- the descendants or bad cop bad cop – no hardcore in here.
Prog Rock - Genesis w/Gabriel (saw them separately-liked Gabriel better)  Metal- for influence and live performance Sabbath/Metallica -tie
Thrash-Slayer by far- (Listen to the guitar work)  I had a VERY hard time not putting Kerry King on my list for guitarist.
Hardcore (either punk, metal or breakdown)- Old school-Bad Brains/Black Flag /Minor Threat

Hardcore newer- Glassjaw for all reasons

Post Hardcore- (stuff you might listen to from your kids)-Chiodos   or Coheed and Cambria (1st album)

Pop-Prince runner up M.J.- both so talented this category diminishes them both.
Singer-Aretha..runner up Mary J Blige
Alternative- Foo Fighters..runner up Black Keys in both recorded and live

Blues- BB King - the best in my opinion
Jazz-Keith Jarrett, a pianist or buddy richs drumming
Rap- personal fav-Beastie Boys for both reasons. They are a GREAT band, even as a punk band. Then Tupac, or Eminem on freestyle.

Most influential guitarist-  With no doubt Hendrix, Page and Iommi.  Every guitarist I have ever met emulates one if not all of them.

Best guitarists for skill- Steve Vai or Stevie Ray Vaughn and I have to say Kirk Hammett, never personally saw a guitarist rock you then take the guitar to tears like he did.  Honorable mention Randy Rhodes.

Best Drummer –IDK, probably Buddy Rich, Bonham,  Pert (for sheer skill) and honorable mention to Portnoy. 

Best bassist-   Flea spent his life trying to sound like this guy and FLEA IS GREAT, he plays slap and does stuff with a bass I have never seen anywhere else.  This is Mike Watts from the Minutemen, Listen to “Toadies” or #1 Man”. This band influenced so many bands like Sublime and Red Hot Chili Peppers.  But Id say Les Claypool, who is VERY interesting with a bass..along these two.   Ive seen all these bassists live. (Not the Minutemen), they are great.


Your favorite music experience…Was it your first concert, the one you went to with your BFF, or a concert you went to and loved it unexpectedly, a musical on broadway..whatever..

ME- If I had to pick something favorite- it would be recording, producing, promoting and watching my son perform live for so many years. That was better than any show, concert or person I met.

My least favorite and most standout music memory is my ex Finally taking me to a concert, and he took me to see Boston because he thought they were cool and I would love them if I “just listened to their lyrics.” 




wsucram15 Added Jul 19, 2017 - 10:24pm
Yeah another music article...but why not.  I have two others on politics.  Not ready to debate issues yet.
Morgoth Added Jul 19, 2017 - 10:49pm
A few favorites:
Thrash-Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer
I'm a big fan of great guitar players, all three bands above have great guitarists.
Classic Rock-Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Cream
Favorites from my childhood, they introduced me to hard rock and heavy metal.
Prog Rock-Rush, Kansas, Emerson, Lake and Palmer
A bit of a mixed bag, musically, with Rush tipping to the hard rock side with the other two bands tipping to the more melodic side.
Motown-Marvin Gaye, the Platters
I also love great singers.  
I'm done for a bit on this one, I'll think about it and more.
Morgoth Added Jul 20, 2017 - 8:27am
Hard to say, probably Zeppelin I or Sabbath's Black Sabbath are extremely influential.  Rush's 2112 (though, oddly, not my favorite Rush album) defined prog rock/metal.
For thrash I look at Megadeth's Peace Sells, Metallica's Master of Puppets and Slayer's Reign in Blood.
It's really hard to pin down for me.  I bounce around a lot on my music.
opher goodwin Added Jul 20, 2017 - 8:52am
I've written books on this one wsu. I could go to town and be here all day. I like my music with politics and social comment. Here's a list of my favourites:
Captain Beefheart and his Magic Band
Roy Harper
Bob Dylan
Woody Guthrie
Son House
Phil Ochs
Pink Floyd
Elmore James
White Stripes
North Mississippi Allstars
Howlin' Wolf
Muddy Waters
Little Richard
Buddy Holly
OK - I could go on and on.
opher goodwin Added Jul 20, 2017 - 8:54am
Best drummer - Keith Moon
Best guitarist - Jimi
Best Bass - John Entwhistle
Best vocal - Captain Beefheart
What a band that would have been.
wsucram15 Added Jul 20, 2017 - 8:56am
I like it all. But talent is talent. I dont disagree with you on Kerry King, actually the entire front line of Slayer. I had a hard time with not putting him on the list.  But people do dismiss him because of the "type" of music he plays.  I had one person say to me his best skill was not breaking his neck.  Seriously.
However those people have never seen him play.
Years and years ago, after a Superbowl of Hardcore show in DC, I got to talk to him for a hot minute about his guitar work.  He is very skilled technically. I also got some tips from Lombardo..but only saw him twice, they had another drummer one time I saw them.   Way back then, I worked marketing for a small underground station in Baltimore called 97 Underground. They went under shortly after that because the larger radio station actually began to play underground stuff and had a larger range. It was a fun place though.  No money in it, I finished college and had a real job in 92, I think it was.
I liked Reign in Blood and South of Heaven.  In fact a couple of my favorite songs came from those albums. Yeah.
Stone-Eater Added Jul 20, 2017 - 9:10am
Classic Rock- Vanilla Fudge, Alice Cooper until 1974, Patto, Boxer, Cactus
Prog Rock old: Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, It Bites, Zappa, East of Eden, The Flock, Chicago Transit Authority, early ELO...and more
Prog Rock new: Arena, Flower Kings, Spock's Beard, Caligula's Horse, Barock Project, BTBAM, Devil Doll, Sunn O))), Mars Volta, The Tangent, Porcupine Tree, Meshuggah, Korn and 20 more 
Classic Punk- Damned, Pistols, 
New Punk- none
Hardcore - Bad Brains, 24 spyz, Henry Rollins
Hardcore newer- Soilwork, Mastodon
Post Hardcore- not sure what that is
Funk-Prince, The Time, George Clinton, Frank Gambale (FunkJazz), 
Singer- Skin, Angelique Kidjo, Salif Keita
Alternative (Indie)- Foo Fighters, Billy Talent, Rooney, The Strokes, Everything Everything, of Montreal, and approx. 50 more
Blues- Gary Moore, Stevie Ray Vaughan
Jazz-Keith Jarrett, Miles Davis, 
Rap- none
HipHop- none
R'n'B- none
Most influential guitarist- Hendrix, Page, Blackmore, Halsall, Alvin Lee
Best guitarists for skill- Hajdi (Ange), Gambale, Halsall, Malmsteen, Moore, Vaughan, )
Listen to that guy...
Best Drummer – Bonham, Moon, Paice (Deep Purple), Jojo Mayer (friend of mine, lives in NYC, Jazz and Free Style)
Best bassist-  Pastorius, lots of Funk bassists....
wsucram15 Added Jul 20, 2017 - 9:15am
As far as Metallica, I like Kill em All, because of Burtons bass and Mustaines influence.   Huge difference in the band, after that Kirk and Newstead joined up..Lars stepped forward more and the sound changed.
People laugh at me about this..but I really like  Garage  Inc 1984-  Blitzkreig..Am I Evil..Stone Cold Crazy..So What?..that were added to the 5.98 EP of the same name with songs like..Greenhell..crash course in brain surgery..etc.  (there were only 5 songs on the original).  I love this CD because the  songs were done by Burton and its all classic stuff. listening to it now..
wsucram15 Added Jul 20, 2017 - 9:24am
Sorry it was 1987 and I have never listened to the first CD.  The second one is great.
Morgoth Added Jul 20, 2017 - 9:36am
I liked Garage, Inc.  "Whiskey in the Jar" is a great cover.
wsucram15 Added Jul 20, 2017 - 9:55am
Opher..I was waiting for you on this one.  Woody Guthrie is a great choice and I didnt do a category for folk music.  His son was something also.
Before I start your list is great.
I literally had a discussion offline about both John Entwistle and Keith Moon.  Moon was more of an argument although very talented and it was with a drummer so Im not going down that road again. (i played drums) so we argued for an hour and its not even 10 am.  I thought I mentioned Entwistle, but maybe I had too many bassists.  I did the same for Drummers.
We've talked about Muddy Water so thats a given.
Little Richard..a showman for sure.
Buddy Holly..nice choice.
If I had done a list of just all time all around best bands I would have said Pink Floyd.   But they arent classic rock and they arent really Prog Rock (one or two albums).  As far as I personally am concerned, they reinvented how music is to be performed.
Also if you like the White Stripes, what do you think of Jack Whites solo stuff?  I like them both, but he has played with better drummers, he is very talented.
You know who we are all forgetting? and I caught hell for this too..Chuck Barry or Fats Domino and Elvis.  Crazy but True.
Stone-Eater Added Jul 20, 2017 - 10:12am
When it comes to political I'd say Rage against the Machine, Henry Rollins, Dead Kennedys and Discharge. But there are MANY out there....
opher goodwin Added Jul 20, 2017 - 10:18am
wsu - then Bo Diddley, Jimmy Reed, Elvis Costello, Pogues, Sex Pistols, Clash, Dead Kennedy's, Stranglers, Ramones, Country Joe and the Fish, Frank Zappa, Nick Harper, Bob Marley, Jerry Lee Lewis, Love, Doors, Janis Joplin, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Meters, Slim Harpo, John Lee Hooker, Arthur Alexander, Who, Pretty Things, Robert Johnson, .......................
It goes on and on. Such a rich vein of human culture. Rock Music - Sabbath, Motorhead, Kinks, Flipper, Ronettes, Crystals, Big Mama Thornton, Carl Perkins Downliners Sect, Ian Dury ...........
I like Jack White - I appreciate his raw playing. He was fantastic live. I preferred White Stripes - I know the drumming was not the best but for me it is the vibe. That more rudimentary style worked with his guitar. Similar in many ways to Mitch Mitch with Hendrix. They augment each other.
If I wanted perfect playing I'd be listening to classical. Sometimes it isn't excellence so much as the vibe. Louie Louie by the Kingsmen was a good example of that for me.
opher goodwin Added Jul 20, 2017 - 10:20am
SEF - political for me was Stiff Little Fingers, Linton Kwesi Johnson, early Dylan, Phil Ochs, Nick Harper, Roy Harper and Gang of Four.
opher goodwin Added Jul 20, 2017 - 10:39am
I almost forgot Otis Redding, Gil Scott Heron and Leonard Cohen, James Brown, Aretha.
wsucram15 Added Jul 20, 2017 - 10:40am
SEF...I knew you were going to say Caligula's Horse.
At least you put Bad Brains up...thanks.
I dont talk much about Henry Rollins and you really do seem to like him. Have you ever seen him?  Ive seen him in just about everything he ever did including his spoken word. (hes in DC often).  I have seen him onstage with Ice Tea, I believe they are friends from waaay back.
Very very intelligent individual and strait forward. He was up for the part of NEgan in the show the Walking Dead and I wrote and wrote to the People at AMC and producers of Walking Dead for him.  They posted they wanted a charming guy that was just ruthless.
While he is like that personally, he doesnt personify that image.
Anyway..he is still on tv, and performing.
On the drummers..please have jojo mayer send a sample.  I would really love to hear it pretty please.
Anyone who plays funk, usually plays slap bass, if they dont they name one or two.  You know I like that kind of stuff.
Guitar..good list and I considered Malmsteen, very very fast on guitar. Plays in 1/16th I think right? There have been a bunch of people from Japan in the last decade or so that have killed him on that speed though. Someone named Nakama I think and some others.
I met a kid when I moved to Baltimore and that was his idol, Malmsteen, sounded just like him.  Never did a damn thing with it at a time when Baltimore rock was huge. Hes gone now, such a waste of talent.
On cant hate old school rap, if you listen to the stories behind the stuff.  Dont be a rock snob...I was like that (its not music, blah, blah blah) and not all of it fact I will give you that most of it is junk for kids.
But there are a few that do stand out and not to be popular, but they were trying to say something.  I like a couple of songs by a pretty hardcore rap band called immortal technique.  Its just stories told to music or beats we know.
Some of that old stuff was real...dont know about now.  Just like punk or anything else that changes things.
wsucram15 Added Jul 20, 2017 - 10:49am
Im going to split between the two of you and say the most anti-political I ever heard was Rage Against the Machine (its in the name) and Dylan.
I will also name Green Day (American Idiot was about Bush),Rise Against, Joan Baez, Public Enemy (1st album) and U2 -WAR.
For USA was Springsteen.  1984..come on.
Stone-Eater Added Jul 20, 2017 - 11:01am
JoJo Mayer
I don't know any funk bassers, really. I hear them but don't bother to know more.......
I just don't like any kind of Rap or Hip hop only for the fact that a sampler and a spoken rhyme don't make music for me, sorry. And adding to that I don't understand fuck all of these lyrics LOL
Means I get no FEELING at all. Same goes for techno. A PC is a good thing, but I don't like it in music when it plays a dominant role. That's why I never was into Kraftwerk or the best-known Swiss band Yello.
Stone-Eater Added Jul 20, 2017 - 11:07am
BTW: That also counts for plastic Disney music such as Perry, Rihanna or Lady Stupid. Take the same chords n times and sell it n times. I sigh when I see grownups listening to such stuff LOL
4 chords n songs....
What's that got to do with REAL music ? It's for n generations of little kids. Repeat every 15 years or so LOL
wsucram15 Added Jul 20, 2017 - 11:07am
Opher have you ever seen him with a mandolin?  He is really a talented guy, I would never have seen them because I didn't like the drummer.  But HE is very good.
But I want to show you him playing with Edge and Page...
This is his mandolin and I am sure you have heard it...
Ric Wells Added Jul 20, 2017 - 11:23am
Stone I saw Vanilla Fudge in a high school gym opening act was Steve Miller. Great show. Jeanne like allkinds of music political and nonpolitical. Favorite bands? Probably depends on my mood. 
wsucram15 Added Jul 20, 2017 - 11:27am
JoJos break down of Buddy Rich is outstanding, you should watch that, it explains quite a bit about specific techniques used by rock and metal drummers today.
And I watched your friend play them all, and even with Nerve?  He has technical skill.   Better at Jazz definitely and outplays a  professional drummer or two I know, but they probably know who he is. 
SEF..I like Rihannas voice, other than that, dont listen to her.  I dont like much popular music..not even the rap and r &B  Could not tell you a thing about it.
I do like Adele though, just for vocals, but still dont tune her in..
What I am talking about is old and in its time was underground.  Most of our stuff nothing is underground anymore.
Stone-Eater Added Jul 20, 2017 - 11:37am
The Sky Cried back then :-) I love that song. They were a very underrated band. The Beat Goes On was one fantastic trip.
Stone-Eater Added Jul 20, 2017 - 11:40am
He grew up in my home town. I often saw him playing when he was 13, and I was 17...and even back then I thought that he's gonna be a big one. He actually organized the drummer for our first band Squash in 1975. That guy was his student. He was about 15 and our drummer 18 LOL
Stone-Eater Added Jul 20, 2017 - 11:42am
I like Rihannas voice
Autotune. Have the looks, and the rest the COMPUTER does LOL
Ric Wells Added Jul 20, 2017 - 11:43am
Jeanne on drummers where does Neal Pert fit in. My faves are Buddy Rich Gene Krupa Keith Moon and Neal Pert. 
Stone-Eater Added Jul 20, 2017 - 11:43am
BTW: Yep, Nerve. That's him.
Stone-Eater Added Jul 20, 2017 - 11:47am
The Pretty Reckless - Under the water
I'm not into female singers in Rock usually. But I love that song. She's pretty cool :-)
Stone-Eater Added Jul 20, 2017 - 11:48am
BTW: Good guitar too.
Billy Roper Added Jul 20, 2017 - 12:37pm
I like Skrewdriver, Saga, Max Resist, and RaHoWa.
wsucram15 Added Jul 20, 2017 - 1:03pm
Ric..on drummers Neil Pert is one of the best drummers that has ever played a set of drums. He may be the best professional drummer living today. The major difference between him and Bonham (in my opinion) is that A) Pert lived and has 30+ years of experience on Bonham.  Also Pert was formally trained and therefore more technical along with the experience.. to compare him (which you really cant) with Bonham here is a clip of him circa 1974 which is fair-
There are earlier ones but they are with a Canadian band and no solos.
BUT BUT BUT...Bonham was a natural drummer, his skill set was his own, I mean he created the offbeat. He did things with a drum kit ( a small one) that people like Pert who are technical use much larger kits to duplicate those sounds.   Bonham had in that time frame anyway..(no comparing them now) a feeling in his percussion that Pert didnt have. Watch him play Moby Dick solo circa it all or start at about 5:00, its long-solo goes until 14:00.  I saw this live..he was great.
If I was going to have an idol it would have been this guy.  I like Bonham better and had he lived would have surpassed Pert in every way, just on his natural feel for percussion. (my opinion).
I had to play some stuff of both of theirs, and its not easy to replicate. Bonham's was more difficult. He used odd things for studio sound and you have to be super fast for placement to change up.
wsucram15 Added Jul 20, 2017 - 1:06pm
But on drummers..Buddy Rich was the king. period.  ric I think Pert played with him at one point, not sure.
wsucram15 Added Jul 20, 2017 - 1:17pm
Roper..dont tell me what you like, comment on the questions in the article. Then discuss what you like.
Its getting technical so..might be to much for you. JK.
 I kind of see you liking those bands, its a white power thing and its just hardcore metal. 
Just answer a few of my questions..then converse. Its pretty simple when you dont try to be offensive.
wsucram15 Added Jul 20, 2017 - 1:20pm
SEF..that video was funny, but not all those songs are 4 chords..really?
Ric Wells Added Jul 20, 2017 - 1:57pm
Jeanne have you seen the movie Whiplash.
Ric Wells Added Jul 20, 2017 - 2:00pm
Curiosity anything for Ginger Baker and I completely forgot about both Bonhams.
Stone-Eater Added Jul 20, 2017 - 2:42pm
Yep, they were. After all it's one and the same song :-)
Stone-Eater Added Jul 20, 2017 - 2:45pm
Multi-Instrumentalists. As long as you don't cite that oberhyped Mike Oldfield LOL
wsucram15 Added Jul 20, 2017 - 3:30pm have to ask, I saw Whiplash several times,  just to watch the movements of the hands... frame by frame at the end.    The actor Miles Teller was a drummer when he was hired and they coached him in jazz. Now supposedly he played that solo in parts.  Not sure I believe that, but I dont know him so who knows.  He was challenged on it and declined, I would also.
Also Ginger Baker is incredible.
 I met Jason Bonham in OceanCity, MD  in like 86,87, he was  in a band called Virginia Wolf playing in a small club.  Big long story..but you have expectations when you meet people sometimes and his father is one of my inspirations I guess you would say.  I imagine its hard to live up to his father, he is much better now.
wsucram15 Added Jul 20, 2017 - 3:32pm
compare Let it be and dont stop believin or the bob Marley song.
They arent and one of them is only 3 chords, cant remember which one now.   
But most are, they are right and its funny...
Stone-Eater Added Jul 20, 2017 - 3:32pm
You got some kind of recording playing in a band ? Would be neat !
wsucram15 Added Jul 20, 2017 - 3:34pm
God..I love music..
Lets talk best live shows...come on now people! 
Stone-Eater Added Jul 20, 2017 - 3:44pm
Sorry, I was never a live concert guy, except with bands I never heard of. When I already know their music or even have discs or mp3's no use to pay and hear the same live. Except when I know the musicians personally.
Ric Wells Added Jul 20, 2017 - 3:56pm
Best live show. 2 weeks before Woodstock 1969. Atlantic City Race track. 3 day event. Mothers of Invention, canned heat, chambers brothers. Impromptu set with Little Richard Janis Joplin Grace Slick and so many more I can't remember.
Ric Wells Added Jul 20, 2017 - 3:57pm
The Who when they still did the destruction act with My generation. 
George N Romey Added Jul 20, 2017 - 5:30pm
I like classical, 70s and 80s rock, new wave, and disco.  My favorite was 80s rocks.  The lyrics were such the musicians were very much coked up when the songs were written.
Stone-Eater Added Jul 20, 2017 - 5:45pm
Isn't it funny that most people always like the music of their youth and then sort of stop to try new stuff`? Maybe that's some kind of sentimental feeling ...... ;-)
Shane Laing Added Jul 20, 2017 - 5:49pm
Best drummers: Keith Moon, John Bonham
Best Bass: John Entwhistle
Lead guitar: This is a tough one, Jimi Hendrix obviously, Eric Clapton, slowhand, himself a great guitarist had a jamming session with Hendrix on stage but had to walk off  as Hendrix was just too good. Tony Iommi due to his influence on Heavy Metal with the Devils Chord. Ritchie Blackmore for his influence on all kids learning to play, everyone learns Smoke on the water. Jimmy Page has to be up there in the top five. David Gilmour, his solo on Comfortably Numb regarded as one of best. Pete Townsends another for Tommy the best rock musical ever.
Keyboards: Rick Wakeman, Bruce Hornsby, Elton John.
Lead Singers: well we all have our own favourites. Brian Johnson, Roger Daltry, Ozzy Osbourne, Freddie Mercury are a few of mine.
Cant really do this without mentioning The Beatles and Rolling Stones great bands and great songs.
Saw ELO and Led Zepplin The Clash, Stranglers and Sex Pistols live in the 70's. They were all awesome. Supertramp, great studio group but live not good
Ric Wells Added Jul 20, 2017 - 6:04pm
Met and talked with Robert Plant for an hour at Queens Head Pub in Wolverly England. Gracious and funny.
Shane Laing Added Jul 20, 2017 - 6:49pm
Wow I am suitably impressed. When at boarding school became good friends with a Canadian called Lee Carter. As we were both boarders at not going anywhere one weekend he asked if I would like to go to his friends house. I said yes and off we went.  On reaching the house we were met by a very attractive lady and I was introduced to the man of the house called Bernie.  Now I recognised this guy but couldn't figure out where.  Needless to say we were invited out to Windsor with them and we turned up at this very nice house.  Bernie knock on the door and no other than Elton John opened it.  You could have knocked me down with a feather.  I suddenly realised it was Bernie Taupin and the reason I knew his face was because I had not long bought the Captain Fantastic album. 
opher goodwin Added Jul 20, 2017 - 6:53pm
wsu - yes White is awesome. I love him on the mandolin but I just adore his raw slide work on electric guitar.
opher goodwin Added Jul 20, 2017 - 7:00pm
Ric - I saw a drum-off between Ginger Baker and Phil Seamen that was unbelievable.
But having been in the studio with Keith Moon and been up close on stage when he played I have to say he blew me away. Bonham was good too - very powerful.
Charlie Watts, in a different way, is a clever drummer.
opher goodwin Added Jul 20, 2017 - 7:02pm
Shane - we talk the same language.
opher goodwin Added Jul 20, 2017 - 7:06pm
Ric - best live shows:
Jimi Hendrix - Woburn Abbey
Captain Beefheart - Middle Earth and the Rainbow
Roy Harper - St Pancras Town Hall + many more
Nick Harper - Leeds in a pub.
Son House - Hammersmith Odeon
Pink Floyd - Fishmonger's Arms
Stones - Sheffield
Ian Dury - Bridlington
Elvis Costello - York
Free - a pub in North London
Fleetwood Mac with Pete Green - Tolworth
Shane Laing Added Jul 20, 2017 - 7:24pm
Damn forgot the great Peter Green. I seem to remember that Jimi Hendrix was being interviewed and was asked what it felt like to be the worlds greatest guitarist. He apparently said why are you asking me? He is sat next to me. and it was Peter Green. Not sure if that's true though.
wsucram15 Added Jul 20, 2017 - 7:39pm
Nope, I tried though. 
I have not been in a band since 1980, the only audio recording I am aware of was done by Jimmy Golan when we were rehearsing with Karl for Triad in his parents house. 
I havent spoken to any of these people in about 38 years?   I did call Jims parents house once some time ago, his parents liked me and told me they would give him the message. But got an unhappy wife call. However, I knew Jimmy for a long time, and figured if he had it, or wanted to let me copy it, he would have talked to me.
I was in a recording studio with Puba in 78, I want to say and jammed with Terry who was their drummer, but have no idea if anyone kept that.
I was also in the studio again with Seek Solace and Spill Your Guts, Marcs early bands and I worked on drum stuff from the production side. Chad (the drummer) had a hard time recording at first, he only had one day due to prior obligations. But im not sure if we have pics from that drum session as I said, I was doing pics and working with him. He wasnt used to layering his sounds from the percussion and he had a difficult time.  He was just used to playing it...not how it works in a studio.
I sang backup on both CDS.
 I think Erin (whom I bought her first USED kit and taught to play in 2007-2008) took some pics, dont know if she kept them or not. But people have seen me play  pieces here and there. 
wsucram15 Added Jul 20, 2017 - 7:45pm
Ok Ric..with the person you are..I am not jealous but THAT IS SOOOOO COOL! Robert Plant.
and you saw Janis, Grace and little Richard..holy shit. 
Ive seen quite a bit, and met MANY, but I think you have checkmate.
wsucram15 Added Jul 20, 2017 - 7:54pm
Now Shane..thats what I was looking for...reasons and comparisons.
My live concert, I would have to pull out my stubs for, Im sorry I was out again and hadn't thought about it.
Bud Oly Lite Added Jul 20, 2017 - 7:59pm
Jeanne, I don't think Neal Peart and Buddy Rich ever met in person, but Buddy Rich's daughter invited him to play at a tribute to her late father, which he happily agreed to do. Here it is:
wsucram15 Added Jul 20, 2017 - 8:09pm
Bernie Taupin, wow now he is quite the writer to Eltons compositions. I would actually like to talk to him. That is another checkmate, he is Sir Elton John, plus Bernie Taupin was there.
I saw EJ a couple of times, closest I ever got was when he played with Billy Joel, front row (2nd section over -close to) near stage, until my friend invited me down to front row center until her husband came back.
Again, I took no pictures, she gave me her second set. 
PS Shane  I didnt forget piano..I just didnt want to make the list too long.   It might be my favorite instrument. 
Bud Oly Lite Added Jul 20, 2017 - 8:11pm
I thought it was cool as fuck how he continues to shred despite a total change of music and genre and playing very stripped down; truly a master of his craft.
Ric Wells Added Jul 20, 2017 - 8:15pm
Opher. Townsend on Moon. Jet engine on a drum kit dressed in ginger. 
Jeanne saw James Brown Four Tops Temptations Nd Gladys Knght and the Pips on same Bill. Dinner theater in the round. 
wsucram15 Added Jul 20, 2017 - 8:20pm
Got me Mike..I didnt watch the entire video and should have,  he worked with Freddie Gruber..Rich's coach for a week or so I believe..
Sorry Guys...
Bud Oly Lite Added Jul 20, 2017 - 8:42pm
Classic Rock - The Rolling Stones
Classic Punk - The Sex Pistols, The Dead Kennedys
New Punk - TBD
Prog Rock - Genesis with Peter Gabriel, ELP, King Crimson
Thrash - Slayer
Hardcore - Black Flag, The Circle Jerks
Hardcore newer - TBD
Pop - The Dandy Warhols
Singer - James Brown
Alternative - The Old 97's
Blues - Never really into Blues
Jazz - Never really into Jazz
Rap - You mean, crap!
Most influential guitarist - Les Paul
Best guitarists for skill - Jimi Hendrix, Eddie Van Halen
Best drummer - Neil Peart, Stewart Copeland
Best bassist - Geddy Lee, Eric Wilson, John Paul Jones
wsucram15 Added Jul 20, 2017 - 8:42pm
MM.. that really  bummed me out..I have to tell you.
*****But then I have these to cheer me up...
***  This is fun and informative.. 
**** a short a fun clip to watch of a great musician being a great drummer..
***** sad the second guy will never get the credit he deserves becuase of the talent of the first guy..
Ric Wells Added Jul 20, 2017 - 8:49pm
Michael B. Saw Puff Daddy with Jimmy Page on SNL one night.  They did Kashmir. Puff Daddy made up his own lyrics whole Page played. Blew me away. Also I did like some of Will Smith's stuff.
Glenn Verasco Added Jul 20, 2017 - 9:58pm
Classic Rock- The Doors, Steve Miller Band, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Tom Petty, David Bowie, Neil Young
Classic Punk- The Clash (though this is not really my genre)
New Punk- Offspring, Jimmy Eat World, The Used
Prog Rock - Tool
Metal- Black Sabbath
Hardcore - (not my genre)
Hardcore newer- (same)
Post Hardcore- (same)
Pop-Prince and MJ
Singer-Whitney Houston
Alternative- Foo Fighters, Stone Temple Pilots, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Smashing Pumpkins
Blues- BB King, Allman Brothers
Jazz-(not my genre)
Rap- Outkast
Most influential guitarist- B.B. King
Best guitarists for skill- Rob Scallon (he's a youtuber)
Best Drummer – Grohl, Pert, Beauford
Best bassist- Flea, Waters, Burton
Your favorite music experience-Playing in a band throughout high school and my first few years of college. Best times of my life.
Ric Wells Added Jul 20, 2017 - 10:02pm
Glenn I'll take Molly Hatchet over Skynard.
Ric Wells Added Jul 20, 2017 - 10:04pm
And the Allman Brothers over either of those two bands.
Ric Wells Added Jul 20, 2017 - 10:05pm
Huitarist for skill Al Demeola.
wsucram15 Added Jul 20, 2017 - 11:02pm
Ric  (I had to verify some of this and it took a hot minute..)...on round table arenas; 
the Front Row in Cleveland,Ohio which is long gone.. My mother used to like those shows.  I saw Neil Diamond , Some guy named Englbert Humperdink  or might have been Tom Jones.  It was one of them..and it was by force.
Sonny and Cher (I met them at this venue-1st time),
George Carlin, who I really liked alot.  I saw BB King there (funny story about him),  Not sure about Alice Cooper, maybe, and Chicago (my sister liked them).  I think I saw Frank Zappa at the Agora in Cleveland, with friends, but he played there also, so maybe.
Also Michael Stanley Band played there all the time, they were the local boys gone good in Ohio.
Most of my shows were at the Agora  or Riverside Stadium. Although Blossom Music Center was good for Outdoor stuff.  I saw Earth Wind and Fire there.
There was a venue like that in MD when I first moved here called Painters was a small round stage like that and as odd as this sounds, I saw Suicidal Tendencies the 1st time there in 1990.   It burned down mysteriously later that night.  We have joking about that for years. LOL...
  Another larger venue like that outside Baltimore, Md called Merriweather- cannot begin to list the concerts there. I think my first one was Heart while visiting Md with my sister.
The other one is in DC and I go there more often than not for concerts. Its smaller and the stage sometimes isnt round. Again, I would have to pull out my stubs but I THINK the first one was Metallica and the place was half full.  CRAZY!
Many of the 80s, 90s early 2000s shows (smaller venue concerts), were at 9:30 club, Black Kat, Fletchers, Ottobar, Sonar, Various warehouse places made into clubs and moved around, and definitely Hammerjacks, up until 1997.   Our Football stadium sits where it used to be.   Some of the best shows I have EVER seen played there.  Ozzy was there...Danzig...too many bands to mention.   Swear to God, I can still smell the inside of that place. 
MB..sorry about the MM,
Your list is solid, but I expected no less.  I have since listened to the Old 97s and they are good.
Rap..what about Beastie boys?  Should have said hiphop
I thought of Les Paul, and that was creative, I mean he did create solid body guitars for others like himself to play. IDK much about him except his guitars are outstanding, expensive as hell, but outstanding.  My son in a project for his magnet music project at school one year went to a Guitar festival with the other 15 kids, and Les Paul was there.  I DK, there was some thing arranged with the class and Marc was so excited about him. 
 I didn't forget Van Halen are definitely a Les Paul guy.
I Love Geddy Lee, he is one of the most creative musicians of our time, along with John Paul Jones who is always forgotten.  Sublimes bassist can motivate, and plays bass like lead- ie; McCartney, very melodic.  But I still like a person who plays finger and slap bass.  Its just a preference.
wsucram15 Added Jul 20, 2017 - 11:31pm
some good choices, you seem to like post hardcore. The Used is post hardcore(unless their new stuff sucks).  Try Glassjaw..its the harder side of the used, but not completely hardcore.
Chiodos and Rancid are outstanding as well in this genre.   Let me know what you think.
Jimmy Eat world is (depending on what CD you are listening to) either emo or pop punk.   Most people stick them under alternative music, I disagree..but its whatever.    Geeze try  Yellowcard or Incubus.
The Offspring is another monster completely..they are alternative with a skate punk spin. They are a west coast band so their spin on punk is popish..but make no mistakes these guys can rock the house though.
Try these bands also if you have not..Bad Religion, Bad Cop Bad Cop, the Descendants,  Sublime, NOFX,  Bouncing Souls, Blink 182.
There are a bunch in this genre...
wsucram15 Added Jul 20, 2017 - 11:38pm
Glenn..for you listen to RyRys song, Hotel of the White Locust, Tip your bartender,jesus glue, All Good junkie go to heaven..etc. to many to name.
wsucram15 Added Jul 20, 2017 - 11:40pm
Ric..Allman brothers were great ...never saw Duane though. 
Terrible Business.
Shane Laing Added Jul 20, 2017 - 11:53pm
Sad news not long discovered Linkin Park. Favourite song is Numb.
wsucram15 Added Jul 21, 2017 - 12:09am
Good song, they were good live.   I never saw them as energetic as at Ozzfest though. 
I keep wondering what is happening to our musicians though..very sad.
wsucram15 Added Jul 21, 2017 - 12:35am
JEFFREY IF YOU SEE THIS..YES Whiskey in a Jar is an Awesome cover.
I love that cd, I mean people I know even people that like metal give me a hard time over that cd. Glad someone besides me likes it.
But I think it is one of their best...I really do. Its their filler stuff from shows and its good material.
opher goodwin Added Jul 21, 2017 - 7:30am
I was laying awake thinking of other great concerts I've been to:
Cream - Windsor
Incredible String Band - Roundhouse
Love - Sheffield
Doors - Roundhouse
Wilko Johnson - Driffield
Taste - Windsor?
Bo Diddley - Hull
Chuck Berry - Bradford
Jerry Lee Lewis - Bradford
Jimmy Reed - London
Bert Jansch - Les Cousins
John Renbourn - Les Cousins
Doctors of Madness - Bridlington
Dead Kennedys - Sheffield (unfortunately minus Jello)
Some disappointments:
Little Richard (too much religion)
Frank Zappa MOI (huge expectation and no atmosphere - seemed robotic)
Davy Graham - robotic
Jefferson Airplane - shambolic
Dylan - Earls Court (gospel rubbish)
wsucram15 Added Jul 21, 2017 - 9:14am
OMG Opher..we could talk all day.  Between you, Ric,Mike and SEF..there are some interesting stories.  Would love to have seen the Doors, Janis (Ric), Chuck Berry, etc...
John G -->are you kidding..Rage?  Ive told my bus story too many times.  But I met them before they were famous and got trapped in their bus with them. Very small show, few hundred people in a reception hall. Fans tore the place apart, it was insane.  They lost the Rage..when Zach left and he cant do it without them.  They were one of the most energizing bands I have ever seen.  Small place, medium arena, large arena, outside on the street or at Woodstock 94 with a million people (I was in the pit for that).  I could write a book just on that concert.  I honestly dont know if I have ever seen another band like them with a crowd.  Maybe Nirvana, Prince, Springsteen,Metallica..maybe.    Ive seen them almost as many times as the Ramones...def one of the best shows I could EVER recommend.
wsucram15 Added Jul 21, 2017 - 9:16am
Ill get out my stubs later and talk actual concerts.
Ric Wells Added Jul 21, 2017 - 9:29am
Wilson Pickett. High school gym. Tore down the house. 
opher goodwin Added Jul 21, 2017 - 9:31am
wsu - I wish I'd kept all those stubs. But there you go. Back in the 60s I thought it would all go on forever.
I'll have to dig out the anecdote of my first gig when I was fourteen - the British Birds with Ron Wood of the Stones. Second one was Them with Van Morrison when Baby Please Don't Go was in the charts. I got two signed photos. I gave one away and my Mum chucked the other - hmmm.
I spent time in Abbey Road studio with Page, Gilmour, Moon and others. Those were the years.
Ric Wells Added Jul 21, 2017 - 9:34am
We have a winner.LOL.
opher goodwin Added Jul 21, 2017 - 12:48pm
Ric - I would have loved to have seen Wilson Pickett, and Otis, Sam and Dave, Aretha, Booker T, - so many great Soul singers. Wilson must have been amazing.
opher goodwin Added Jul 21, 2017 - 1:15pm
wsu - Other great gigs:
Family  - Ilford
Jackson C Frank - Ilford
Jethro Tull - Tolworth
Led Zeppelin - Tolworth
John Mayall (with Eric Clapton) - Shepperton
Downliners Sect - Kingston
Fall - Hull
Buzzcocks - Hull
Lazy Lester - London
Billy Bragg - Hull
Ric Wells Added Jul 21, 2017 - 1:46pm
Opher he was.
wsucram15 Added Jul 21, 2017 - 4:47pm
Opher..I agree with Ric in Abbey Studios, with Page and company. Holy Cow.
 Ive met famous people and had these types of conversations with them, they talk about this type of stuff. They would saw WOW also because they are also huge admirers of these people.  Thats why I like these conversations...its about your life.   Its difficult to meet people that live that type of life or even understand it. 
You guys were  in the right place in the right time.
My friends thought it was me with the exciting life...damn.  I could write the followup to your book though...
Good shows...really good shows.  Wilson a gym, that was beast.
BUT guys, they did a display in a "record store" believe it or not, of some of my flyers and the few albums I do have, along with the stubs.  It was neat to see kids reactions to bands they will never see, even from the 80s and 90s. 
Ric Wells Added Jul 21, 2017 - 5:01pm
The most surprisingly good concert I saw was Janis Ian opening and Donavan as the headliner. 
Ric Wells Added Jul 21, 2017 - 5:02pm
I did see Neil Diamond at MSG exciting show at the time.
Bud Oly Lite Added Jul 21, 2017 - 8:49pm
Jeanne,  glad you liked the Old 97's. Technically they are "alt-country", but whatever. Wreck Your Life from 1995 and Too Far to Care from 1997 are my favorite albums from them. Their front man, Rhett Miller, also had a decent solo album called The Instigator from 2001-2002. I saw them once at The House of Blues in Hollywood, and that was one of the best gigs I ever hit. I also saw Rhett Miller and the Old 97's bass player, Murray Hammond, a couple of times at a place called Largo's, which was across the street from Kantor's Deli in Fairfax. Rhett Miller was standoffish, but Murray Hammond was very friendly and personable, and I chatted with him and his very hot girlfriend for several minutes. Very cool dude.
Bud Oly Lite Added Jul 21, 2017 - 9:07pm
Also, I'd like to add another category; Best "billy" band, as in Hillbilly, Rockabilly, Psychobilly, etc. For me, it's Hank Williams Senior, The Blasters, and Hank Williams III, in that order, lol.
wsucram15 Added Jul 21, 2017 - 11:40pm
I posted my concert tix, some flyers and a few drum sticks That I could get to.  The rest are in boxes.  The pictures are above in the article.
JohnG I was shocked thats all and kind of happy someone brought them up, I guess.
Favorite concert..if it has to be one band, just one, (keep in mind I was really young when I saw some GREAT bands and just dont remember them that well),, No I will do it by decade
70s.. Pink Floyd  1977- Cleveland Municipal Stadium (I missed the Wish you Were Here Tour)
      Led Zepplin 1977 NYC Madison Sq.  I think this was a BDay gift.
      the Ramones 1976 CBGB NYC first concert/show not with my mom.
I saw Queen that was great..they are a close right up there with these.
80s- there werent that many, but laugh if you will, Im gonna say Prince.  1984 -Richfield Coliseum
 M.J --> 1984 Cleveland Public Auditorium
I saw Ozzy, Twisted Sister, VanHalen, Def Leopard, Bon Jovi, Cinderella, Metallica, NWA ..etc.  But I dont think I saw anyone that impressed me musically the  way Prince did in this time period.
the 90s- ok right into this
1992- RFK stadium. Metallica, Faith-no More and GnR.    We were in the snakepit (a section inside the stage) with my daughter, she was 12.   When Axel came out my daughter was on her stepdads shoulders, there werent that many people in the pit and he saw her.  He sang Sweet Child O Mine to her.  
1992- Baltimore Arena-Ministry- Best show I had seen visually and the sound for such a large band was incredible.  This was a smaller venue and I still think about it with an impression of an  Incredible show.
1993- Nirvana- Bender Arena (partially closed), I sat in the catwalk after moshing to Breed and Drain you and just watched these guys. This was an old school punk show until they did the In Utero stuff. So much energy and great with the crowd.  Kurt destroyed the stage for a good 20-25 minutes after the band left while playing noise.  In retrospect, I saw tons of bands just as good in the 90s, but 5 months later there was no Nirvana.
 1993 Lollapalooza and Michaels 8th Avenue- Rage Against the Machine.   Have not seen a band like them before or since. Tore the place apart. I met them and they were all very nice, even if we thought the bus was going to be turned on its side.
August 1994- Woodstock94  Catskills, NY..Old and new bands played and it was probably my most memorable of the 90s. I believe over 100 bands played, it was nuts. My biggest memories when I thought about it were Bob Dylan, Crosby Stills and Nash, Peter Gabriel and the Green Day mud -shit fest.  It really was incredible.
1995/96- RFK stadium and Hammerjacks(3)- I saw the Ramones many times in the almost 20 years I followed them but I saw them twice in 95 and one last time in 96.  That was their last tour, Joey passed away in 2001 and the remaining original members were all gone by 2014.    This was the band that made me realize there was something else out here. Sound great..especially at Hammerjacks, always.
I still have a stack of concerts left from the 90s, STP, Soundgarden, Janes Addiction, Red Hot Chili Peppers, NIN, House of Pain, Cypress Hill, White Zombie, Pantera(3), Merciful Fate, Bosstones, Mustard plug, Streetlight Manifesto, Anthrax, Tool, Primus, Green day,  Carcass, Slipknot, Slayer (2+)..on and on..
I dont think any of those touch the ones I mentioned. IDK some of those were awesome concerts.
Beginning in the millennium, I have to tell you that My Son started playing shows in 2005 with 25TaLife here in Baltimore @ SideBar a sort of famous hardcore club for the past 35 years.  Those are probably my favorite shows.
With that said..
Any HFStival was good my son went to the one in 2001 with Fatboy Slim, Live, Green Day, Incubus, Tenacious D, 3 Doors Down, The Cult, Fuel,
wsucram15 Added Jul 21, 2017 - 11:48pm
Lifehouse, Sevendust, Coldplay, SR-71, New Found Glory
and again in 2002  with Eminem who was surprisingly good. I was shocked.  I did not like him at all then.
Superbowl of Hardcore 2001- Nations, Washington, DC-Iron Cross, Stretch Armstrong, God Forbid, Die Cast, Comin' Correct, All Out War, Death Threat, Crusade, Fury For Another, Carved in Stone, Brace, Shadow's Fall, Striking Distance, Inhuman, Wake up Cold, The Spitfires United, Latchkey, Sworn Enemy, Last One Standing, Forced Reality, Bane, E-Town Concrete, Candiria, Shutdown, Skarhead, Murphy's Law, Madball, Agnostic Front, Soul Brains, Bad Luck 13...  The last 5 bands were worth the price of the ticket. Madball is worth going to see anytime.
2002 Superbowl of Hardcore, Nations, Washington, DC- had Bad Brains and Slayer. I dont remember the other bands and only wrote those two names on the ticket. NO ONE on the internet knows either.  IT was a GREAT show.
MCI center Billy Joel and Elton John 2002, I already talked about this...I really loved this concert..I think it might have been the most expensive one I ever went to..
In this decade, Saw Cher 2x , Tori Amos 2x, Slayer-again, Biohazard multiple times, Hatebreed, MCR, Fallout boy and got everyone backstage with a trick I learned. I stayed in the pavilion and let them have fun.
But in 2005, Englishtown, NJ took my son to see Warped Tour-

Fall Out Boy The Offspring Avenged Sevenfold My Chemical Romance Dropkick Murphys  Relient K Beastie Boys Motion City Soundtrack Atreyu Underoath Thrice Story of the Year Senses Fail Hawthorne Heights Saosin Something Corporate
The Starting Line Funeral for a Friend Millencolin Bedouin Soundclash MXPX Mae Emery Matchbook Romance Skindred
Transplants Strung Out  Midtown Darkest Hour The Dead 60s
Bleeding Through Street Dogs Mest My American Heart Greeley Estates The Bled  Boys Night Out  Reggie And The Full Effect   I Am the Avalanche  Riverboat Gamblers A Thorn for Every Heart Hopesfall  Over It  ASG  Go Betty Go
The Kinison  The Briefs  Chin Up Chin Up   This Day And Age
Valient Thor  Hot Rod Circ

I went to a couple of warped tours with my son--> but I like the Dropkick Murphys and Beastie Boys so this was the best of three lineups. I guess because I am older and can occasionally kick some butt,  I got to hang out with Dexter for a hot minute. I got a cool hat from a friend of his.
2005-Sonar Club- Coheed and Cambria- one of the best shows I have seen since Rage, not as much energy from the crowd, but the band kicked ass. Saw them again in NJ at Starland Ballroom, much better show.
2007-Recher Theatre- GLASSJAW- this might be it...very intense and packed show.  I knew the people from booking shows so I didnt get crushed but it was a great show.  It was a reunion show so people were onstage, everywhere. It was nuts.  These guys arent kids either..they are hardcore, its good music.
Boys Night Out -2009-The Opera House, Toronto, CN- Great show took my son and his friends, I went because I like Canada.  But the show was in a great theatre and the sound was awesome.  The band I had seen before but they were playing a reunion to their own hometown so the show was packed and energetic.
Joan Jett- 2011 Heritage Fair- Baltimore, MD.  I HAD to take my BF to a concert. He liked the Runaways and it so happened she did a couple of the Runaways songs.  I didnt like the sound system for her, but Jett never disappoints.  She is still a punk after all this time.
Sigor Ros- WAshington DC- Patriot Center 2013. 
wsucram15 Added Jul 21, 2017 - 11:51pm
Other shows from 2005-now
My sons bands Seek Solace, Spill Your Guts, and like two others I cant think of until he landed this band Queensway.  Hes a good performer. He really is..
2015-2017-all Queensway, local and out of state.
MikeB- how about stray cats or buddy holly?
Check this band out..the bellfuries   - workingmans bellfuries
Bud Oly Lite Added Jul 22, 2017 - 12:05am
Jeanne, I never really listened to much of either Buddy Holly or the Stray Cats. The Stray Cats were OK, but for some reason, every time I see pictures of Buddy Holly holding that Strat, I wonder where it is! Speaking of which, I thought Gary Busey did a good job in The Buddy Holly Story.
wsucram15 Added Jul 22, 2017 - 12:07pm
He did do a good job.  I gained an appreciation for Holly and friends in the 80s.
I always liked the stray cats, I saw them somewhere, wasnt a huge concert thing..just one of the retro shows. They still kick it.
On Buddy Hollys Guitar, its one thing I have never seen.   Ive been to Texas a couple of times over the years (I have family is East Texas).  It was my understanding that his guitar he was using at that time was given to his family and ultimately donated to the museum in Texas. 
Im sure thats where it is now, provided they put the real one on display.
opher goodwin Added Jul 22, 2017 - 2:48pm
I would have loved to have seen Buddy Holly mix with the Beatles. I think he is one of the 50s Rockers who would have gone on to develop. So many got stuck in a rut.
Bud Oly Lite Added Jul 22, 2017 - 4:10pm
It's funny how some musicians keep putting out material and raking it in many years after their final sound check at the big gig in the sky, or, far more likely, the big gig in the ground.
opher goodwin Added Jul 23, 2017 - 6:47am
Yes Michael - and most struggle to earn a crust.
Stone-Eater Added Jul 23, 2017 - 8:00am
Oh two concerts I remember:
Salif Keita in Stade de Bamako 1995 and Split Enz at Sweetwaters Festival near Hamilton NZ 1980. Love Split Enz :)
opher goodwin Added Jul 24, 2017 - 10:26am
SEF - Would have loved to have seen Salif. Are you a fan of Tinariwen?
wsucram15 Added Jul 24, 2017 - 3:23pm
See, everyone has see a concert.  I am so glad we had this discussion.
This might have been the most in depth discussion we have ever had. son was here and looked over the comments, he said his taste in underground music was far too aggressive for most of us.  I listened to some of them off his iphone and he is right.  He gave me a bunch of bands that were "post hardcore with a prog twist", which is what he said you leaned towards but for some reason the paragraph did not post.
 Pierce the Veil ,Thursday, Emarosa (cloud 9) , LETLIVE ( White Americas black Market), La Dispute, but I think you will like Pierce the Veil.
He agreed with me and said Chiodos, which is one of my favorite bands.  Maybe Fall of Troy, I like  them also.. Always Senses Fail older stuff.  Really old Panic at the Disco...Pretty Odd. Have not heard their new stuff, Marc said its ok.  (they are compared alot to MCR who I really dont like-but Pretty Odd is a good cd)
I love Muse, they are one of those off bands I like.  Not sure they fit this mold. Another weird one Is Gorilla Biscuits. Dr Mahattan Biscuits and Groovy   either the best or worst song you ever heard...LOL    Makes me laugh whenever I hear it..but I love it.
Atris, womb to war..not sure of them yet. Bring Me the Horizon, maybe Every Time I Die "New Junk Asthetic".  Saosin, Thrice, Brand New and everyone knows the Deftones.
Jeff Michka Added Jul 24, 2017 - 6:02pm
Great post & topic, wsucram15.  Good one on your son and his efforts.  Yeah, it takes work and dedication, and seems he wasn't far from "support and endorsement," either.  Listing forthcoming.  Category add: Urban Blues, would include reggae, ska, etc.
wsucram15 Added Jul 24, 2017 - 10:43pm
OMG Jeff..I love ska..they are mentioned somewhere in here..STreetlight Manifesto, Bosstones, Mustard Plug... on and on.  Reggae, I didnt list except to talk Marley for a hot minute.   I like a good bit of reggae also.  Urban Blues...hmmmm
Never heard it put that way..but are you talking about country blues?
like maybe a new rockabilly kind of thing?
wsucram15 Added Jul 24, 2017 - 10:45pm
Also Jeff..thank you about Marcus, you missed all my photos in here of him.  I deleted most of the one of him live performing singing and playing bass.  Also my large ticket and a tiny portion of my stick collection for concerts and shows.
Jeff Michka Added Jul 25, 2017 - 4:51pm
wsucram15 notes: Urban Blues...hmmmm
Never heard it put that way..but are you talking about country blues?
like maybe a new rockabilly kind of thing? Urban Blues is a real catchall category used in archiving records, originally.  No country, but think also of Lou Reed, Kevin Aryes, as well as ska and reggae in same category. Sorry to have missed the pics!
opher goodwin Added Jul 25, 2017 - 6:30pm
We haven't even mentioned Jeff Beck.
wsucram15 Added Jul 26, 2017 - 10:30pm
I know..he was going to be on my guitar list because I do consider him highly underrated by most people.  Very talented man. 
Jeff-BY AllMUSIC, Urban Blues is defined as " type of sophisticated blues written about the vagaries of city life, its lyrics alternately dealing with romantic strife and the innumerable good times to be easily obtained in an urban area. Always city-derived, the music is earmarked by a pronounced uptown emphasis, embracing everything from jump blues to jazz-influenced stylings to smooth, supper-club-style vocals.  "
Im just going to say..its NOT old school country , but it still has that kind of sound to it, its the verbage and an upbeat kinda sound.  
wsucram15 Added Jul 26, 2017 - 10:30pm
Maybe next time..on the pics
Jeff Michka Added Jul 29, 2017 - 2:39pm
opher G sez: We haven't even mentioned Jeff Beck.-OK...Jeff Beck.  He gets less respect, I believe, because of the lack of vocals in his material.  Still, an incredible guitarist.
Jeff Michka Added Jul 29, 2017 - 2:41pm
wsucram15 sez: Im just going to say..its NOT old school country , but it still has that kind of sound to it, its the verbage and an upbeat kinda sound.- I'll buy your definition of urban blues, but can't tell you a thing about contemporary "country" music, studiously avoid it.  Is it contemporary country if their beer cans don't have pull tabs?
Ric Wells Added Jul 29, 2017 - 2:46pm
If your going onto country guitar players. Mentions to Chet Atkins Roy Clark Vince Gill. And so May others these are not three chord guys. Saw a video of Glen Campbell shredding the William Tell Overture.
Shane Laing Added Aug 3, 2017 - 4:52am
I had Jeff Beck Grease Monkey as a ringtone on my old phone. Very Good.
Shane Laing Added Aug 3, 2017 - 4:58am
Oooo Ska, was a big fan on the Selecter (had the hots for Pauline Black). The Beat, The Specials all good bands.
Jeff Michka Added Aug 7, 2017 - 7:08pm
I agree with "make every song you sing, your favorite tune."  Can't remember who said that, but it's how I feel when asked about "favorites".
Dino Manalis Added Oct 12, 2018 - 4:43pm
 Music is relaxing, politics aggravates emotions, leave politics out of music and everything else for that matter!
wsucram15 Added Oct 13, 2018 - 2:17am
Ahhh Dino if life were that way it would be easy breezy. 
Flying Junior Added Oct 13, 2018 - 5:00am
Local psychobilly hero would have to be Mojo Nixon for me.
"Don Henley must die; Don't let him get back together with Glen Frey."
"Another chicken-choking guitar solo!"
Flying Junior Added Oct 13, 2018 - 5:02am
That trombone guy for the Specials who played the most epic solo of the era on Ghost Town.
Bud Oly Lite Added Oct 13, 2018 - 11:17am
@ FJ - I almost can't believe you know who Mojo Nixon is, lol.
Bud Oly Lite Added Oct 13, 2018 - 11:24am
This Mojo Nixon song touched me deeply, in the most sublime and profound ways possible; I'd go as far to say that it changed my life:
"Burn Down the Malls":
opher goodwin Added Oct 13, 2018 - 1:44pm
I like my stuff with great lyrics, loads of social content and oodles of politics!
Flying Junior Added Oct 13, 2018 - 5:24pm
I met Mojo after a gig circa 1985, whatever year it was that he moved to San Diego.  One of our prominent bands of the era, The Beat Farmers opened.  I never knew why he came here instead of Austin or Nashville.  He had just made the trip from Louisiana.  He must have made a name for himself in New Orleans, who knows?  In those days he only played music with one other man, a certain Skid Roper who played the washboard.  He was basically a one-man show.  Outrageously funny cat.  I couldn't believe it when less than ten years later he was on MTV.  That's where I lifted the phrase, "Another chicken-chokin' guitar solo."
Jeff Michka Added Oct 13, 2018 - 9:08pm
Hmmm, live shows.  Sadly, except the first Sky River festival, the best shows I saw I was working the stage.  Jethro Tull, Cream, Robin Trower, King Crimson, Airplane.  All early to mid 70d s.  A buddy of mine, when with a band called "The Sonics" opened for Robert Plant in several cities back East a little more than a year ago.  Fred got to know Plant a little, and Plant liked Fred's bass playing and vocals.  Guess he's generally a nice guy.  Glad to see this article back again.  Good work, wsucram15.
James Travil Added Oct 13, 2018 - 10:13pm
I'm with Dino on this one. I like to relax with my music, not stress out and be fuming with anger like politics (especially this year) makes me feel. If I believed in a spiritual world, it would be where I place my music, not in the political gutter. 
Bud Oly Lite Added Oct 14, 2018 - 12:44am
@ FJ - I saw the Beat Farmers once; I was pretty fucked up, but I remember them being pretty good. Something I heard from a dude before the show started:
"I like this dude, he pours beer on himself."
While never, never condoning the abuse of alcohol, I knew where he was coming from, lol.
Flying Junior Added Oct 14, 2018 - 1:34am
James T.
Socially relevant music can be really cool.  I guess I'm the only big fan of The Specials  here today.  I love that British ska!  But I immediately thought of I am the One-in-Ten.  To me the lines are timeless.
I am the one-in-ten;
A number on a list.
Nobody knows me but I'm always there,
A statistical reminder of a world that doesn't care.
opher goodwin Added Oct 14, 2018 - 7:41am
I love the Specials too.
Jeff Michka Added Oct 14, 2018 - 6:04pm
Note to SEFa, might give a listen to Shuggy Otis is you like funky bass players.  He's been recording since he was a kid.
Flying Junior Added Oct 14, 2018 - 10:59pm
I heard Shuggie a few times on his dad's radio show.  The Johnny Otis Show.  This was the name of Johnny's Band from 1957 until about 1998.  But The Johnnie Otis Show was also the name of his radio program broadcast over KPFA Berkeley and KPFK Los Angeles between at least 1984 and 2006.
Every Monday night for twenty years I listened faithfully to the Johnny Otis Show from 7:00 to 10:00 p.m. on KPFK.  Usually I had a friend and we would roll down to Windansea where we could pick up him up on the car radio.  Johnny would spin platters of Jump Blues, R&B, Blues, Doowop, Soul and Motown recorded between about 1949 and 1967.  He played the best music of the era.  Coasters, Drifters, Billy Ward and His Dominoes, James Brown, Percy Mayfield, B.B. King. Smokey Robinson, Frankie Lymon, Little Anthony and the Imperials, The Marvelettes, Billie Holiday, The Temptations, Roy Brown, Chuck Berry, Dinah Washington, Little Richard, Big Mama Thornton and probably a couple of dozen more artists that I can't think of right now.
That was my blues education.  It always sounded so fucking good!
Jeff Michka Added Oct 15, 2018 - 6:54pm
Wow, FJr.  What a great radio pallet.  Johnny Otis was so cool.  Oddly, first heard Shuggy playing him on a college radio station back in late 60s.  Think Shuggy was like 13-14 yrs old at the time.  Ah, the beauty of music on a very personal mass media: radio.  And seemed the college show I did consisted mostly of R&B...what "the people" wanted to hear, and there was never a shortage of new material, dozens of R&B 45s came in each week when labels cared about "music service."  Didn't matter even if you had a small station. 
Flying Junior Added Oct 16, 2018 - 4:41am
Good times.
Jeff Michka Added Oct 18, 2018 - 9:36pm
Ah, the locals are all awash with memorials to Paul Allen.  Allen thougt he played guitar, and also thought if he had a museum featuring Jimi Hendrix, he'd be as good as Hendrix.  I'm not that great a gitaurist, but I'm better than Allen was.  Hmmm, may have mentioned this before, but believe in "Beware of Mr. Baker."  Watched Ginger Baker throw a big glass ashtray at Eric Clapton in an argument., just before a gig.  Didn't hit Capton or it would have done damage.  On stage, you'd not known they'd been in a raging argument a few minutes before.  That professionalism.
opher goodwin Added Oct 20, 2018 - 5:43am
How great was that R&B period!!